Equation of the plane, keep getting z=0 but can't be

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The problem involves evaluating a triple integral of the function x^2 over a solid tetrahedron defined by specific vertices. Participants are discussing the determination of the equation of the plane that bounds the solid, particularly focusing on the limits of integration for the variable z.

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  • Participants are attempting to derive the equation of the plane using the vertices of the tetrahedron and are questioning their approach to finding the correct limits for z in the integral. There is a discussion about the choice of points used to define the plane and the implications of the resulting plane equation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the selection of points to define the plane, suggesting a reevaluation of the geometric representation. There is an acknowledgment of a derived plane equation, with some participants expressing confusion about its validity in the context of integration.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as stated, with specific vertices provided for the tetrahedron. There is an ongoing exploration of the geometric relationships and assumptions regarding the orientation of the plane in relation to the coordinate axes.

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ok so the problem is to evaluate (triple integral)x^2 dV of the solid tetrahedron with vertices (0,0,0) (1,0,0) (0,1,0) and (1,0,1)



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so (triple integral)x^2 dzdydx
i made the x-y plane be the base with 0<x<1 and 0<y<1-x
for the z limits, i know they should be 0 to the plane but i am having trouble getting the equation of the plane. i need to use the points (1,0,0) (0,1,0) and (1,0,1) right?
but when i do the cross products of the two vectors <-1,1,0> and <0,0,-1> i get that the k component is 0. which makes no sense looking at the picture because z is not always zero. what am i doing wrong?
 
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You aren't drawing the right picture. The plane defined by those three points is perpendicular to the x-y plane. I think you want to use (0,0,0), (0,1,0) and (1,0,1) to define the plane that lies above the region in the x-y plane. Try the picture again.
 
now I'm getting a plane equation of z=x which makes no sense when i integrate
 
That's correct. But how can that make no sense when you integrate? It's a perfectly reasonable limiting plane. One variable in your integral is a dummy, one is the actual limit.
 
got it, thanks!
 

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