Equations for functions in the complex domain

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The discussion focuses on the representation of lines in the complex domain, specifically how to express the equation of a line when working with complex numbers. Participants explore the implications of using real parameters in the context of complex variables and the reflection of complex points over a line.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the definition of a line is given by the equation ##ax + by = c##, suggesting that since ##x## and ##y## are real, the equation should reflect the complex nature of points in the ##z##-plane.
  • Another participant clarifies that a line in the complex plane can be defined using real parameters and that the equation provided is a less explicit way of expressing this concept.
  • Concerns are raised about the use of ##y## as a complex variable, with suggestions to replace it with ##z## to better represent the complex nature of the points being discussed.
  • One participant acknowledges a flaw in their initial reasoning regarding the reflection of complex points, expressing confusion about the nature of the line represented by the equation and its relation to the complex plane.
  • It is noted that the equation ##ax + by = c## is technically an equation rather than a line, and that the terminology used may be misleading.
  • Participants discuss the transition from a Cartesian representation in ##\mathbb R^2## to the complex representation in ##\mathbb C##, emphasizing the need for this conversion for certain calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the line equation in the context of complex numbers. There is no consensus on the best approach to represent lines in the complex domain, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of using real versus complex variables.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their approaches, such as the inability to specify vertical lines with certain forms of the equation and the potential confusion arising from the terminology used to describe lines versus equations.

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When working in the complex domain (##z = x + iy##), how does one write the equation of a line?

I have attached a problem I was working on (and have the solution), but am curious as to why the definition of a line is given by ##ax + by = c##. Are not ##x## and ##y## also variables that take on strictly real values? Should not this equation for this function (upon which an arbitrary point ##z^* = x^* + iy^*## will be reflected) be written: ## y = -i(\frac {a}{b})x + \frac {c}{b} ## since we are discussing the ##z##-plane where the imaginary axis corresponds to the value of ##y##?
 

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A line is a set of points in the Complex plane that can be specified by three real parameters ##a,b,c## as follows:
$$l_{abc}\triangleq \{x+iy\ :\ x,y\in\mathbb R\wedge ax+by=c\}$$
The equation they have given is a slightly less explicit way of saying that.

Your approach uses ##x## and ##y## in different ways. Note that in yours ##y## is complex rather than real, so it would be better to replace ##y## by ##z##. A limitation of your approach is that it cannot specify a vertical line, as that requires ##b=0##.
 
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andrewkirk said:
A line is a set of points in the Complex plane that can be specified by three real parameters ##a,b,c## as follows:
$$l_{ab}\triangleq \{x+iy\ :\ x,y\in\mathbb R\wedge ax+by=c\}$$
The equation they have given is a slightly less explicit way of saying that.

Your approach uses ##x## and ##y## in different ways. Note that in yours ##y## is complex rather than real, so it would be better to replace ##y## by ##z##. A limitation of your approach is that it cannot specify a vertical line, as that requires ##b=0##.

Thank you for the response; yes, I see the flaw in my approach as ##y## is imaginary. I guess I'm lacking intuition in this problem of what exactly it means for a point ##z## that is complex being reflected over a line: ##ax + by = c##. Isn't this line purely real (e.g. plotted on such a graph)? It appears based on what you're saying that if we use the form ##ax + by = c##, that this accounts for ##y## being the imaginary part despite not being explicitly imaginary based on this equation. It just feels like solving this problem amounts to solving it over a normal 2-dimensional Cartesian grid with both real axes. I guess the answer really shouldn't be different if ##y## was the imaginary axis or a real axis if ##z## is converted to just an ordered pair ##(x,y)##.
 
TheCanadian said:
I guess the answer really shouldn't be different if ##y## was the imaginary axis or a real axis if ##z## is converted to just an ordered pair ##(x,y)##.
Correct. Bear in mind that ##ax+by=c## is an equation, not a line. It is a(n understandable) informal, but common, bending of terminology to call it a 'line'. The line is a set of points ##l_{abc}##, defined as in my post #2.

For your problem, you can consider the number plane as being ##\mathbb R^2## for the first part, where you work out the coordinates of the reflected points. None of that uses any properties of complex numbers. Then you need to convert from ##\mathbb R^2## to ##\mathbb C## for the last part, in order for the formula to make sense, as it contains multiplication and division of points in the plane.
 
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