Equations for relative velocity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the equations for calculating relative velocity, particularly in scenarios involving collinear objects moving in the same or opposite directions, as well as objects following curved paths. Participants seek clarification on the appropriate formulas and their applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests the equation for relative velocity, noting that existing resources only cover collinear objects moving in the same direction.
  • Another participant suggests a resource that includes information on "non parallel velocities."
  • Several participants provide a formula for relative velocity, indicating that if object A moves away from an observer at velocity u and object B moves in the same direction at speed v, the relative speed of A to B is given by \frac{u- v}{1+ \frac{uv}{c^2}}.
  • It is noted that if objects are moving in opposite directions, the formula should replace "-v" with "+v," while another participant suggests reversing the sign of v throughout the equation.
  • A participant expresses confusion over differing equations found online, specifically mentioning a formula that uses a negative sign in the denominator, and seeks further clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct formulation of the relative velocity equation, as there are conflicting interpretations regarding the signs used in the equations and their applicability to different motion scenarios.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions behind the equations, particularly concerning the conditions under which the formulas apply, such as the direction of motion and the nature of the velocities involved.

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hello everyone,

Can someone kindly show me the equation for relative velocity calculations?

when i search for them via wikipedia, there is only one formula for collinear objects and they move to the same direction...

so what if they move opposite to each?

and what if their motions follow a curvature ...:confused:

please help :P
 
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The equation you mention for "relative velocity" is: if object A is moving away from me at velocity u and object B is moving along the same line and in the same direction at speed v (both relative to me) then the speed of object A relative to B is given by
[tex]\frac{u- v}{1+ \frac{uv}{c^2}}[/tex]

If they are moving in opposite directions, replace "-v" with "+v".

If they are not moving along the same line, draw a line between them and calculate their components of velocity parallel and perpendicular to that line. Apply the formula above to the parallel components only.
 
HallsofIvy said:
If they are moving in opposite directions, replace "-v" with "+v".

And replace "+v" with "-v". More concisely, reverse the sign of v everywhere in the equation.
 
HallsofIvy said:
The equation you mention for "relative velocity" is: if object A is moving away from me at velocity u and object B is moving along the same line and in the same direction at speed v (both relative to me) then the speed of object A relative to B is given by
[tex]\frac{u- v}{1+ \frac{uv}{c^2}}[/tex]

If they are moving in opposite directions, replace "-v" with "+v".

If they are not moving along the same line, draw a line between them and calculate their components of velocity parallel and perpendicular to that line. Apply the formula above to the parallel components only.

thank you for your reply!

unfortunately, when I search on website, I was told the equation as:

[tex]\frac{u- v}{1- \frac{uv}{c^2}}[/tex]

and it says if they go opposite directions, I need to replace the sign...if you think I am paranoid :) , please check here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_velocity

to be honestly, I am not a guy with physics background, i just like it... so this is confusing for me... could you please help?

once again, thank you!
 

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