Equations for Spherical Resonators

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The discussion revolves around the equations used to determine the diameter of a spherical resonator based on a given frequency and sound hole dimensions. Participants are examining the accuracy of these equations, particularly in the context of a sphere with and without a neck, and the implications of material thickness on the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares a web app for calculating the diameter of a sphere for resonance and notes issues with the equations used, particularly regarding material thickness affecting the neck length.
  • Another participant points out that the equations are only three digits accurate, which they compare to the temperature variation of the speed of sound.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on the accuracy, specifically asking if "three digits" refers to the total or to the right of the decimal point.
  • Further clarification indicates that the three-digit accuracy refers to the total number of digits, suggesting that using Pi as 3.14 limits the result to three valid digits.
  • Participants discuss the need to refine constants and correct the speed of sound in air for temperature to achieve greater accuracy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accuracy of the equations, with some agreeing on the limitations of the current equations while others seek to clarify the specifics of the accuracy measurement. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall reliability of the equations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the equations, particularly concerning the effects of material thickness and temperature on the speed of sound, which have not been fully addressed.

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I'm trying to determine the accuracy of a couple of equations to determine the diameter of a sphere given the frequency and the diameter and length of a sound hole and ask related questions.
I host freely for the public a web app for determining the diameter of a sphere to resonate a given frequency and sound hole diameter and length, and then download a stl file for 3D printing. I've realized it has some issues and part of it is the equations i use to determine the sphere's diameter. I offer two styles in the app using equations given to me by a physics professor in 1980's. They are...

sphere no neck1.jpg

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sphere with neck1.jpg
At this point, i believe i should be most interested in the accuracy of the equation next to the sphere with a neck in the second picture. I've realized that the equation for a sphere with no neck in the first picture does not consider the thickness of material used since it will in essence create a neck of some length. The expression below each equation, i'm hoping, is an accurate representation of the equation above it.
 
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DrewPear said:
Do you mean three digits accurate to the right of the decimal point?
No, I mean 3 digits in total, wherever the decimal point may be.
When Pi = 3.14 is used, there can be only three valid digits in the result.
The neck end correction has only two digits, but is inside the root computation, so all is not lost.
To get more than 3 digits, you will need to refine all constants, and correct the speed of sound in air for temperature.
 
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