Equations of motion of an electron emitted from a surface

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The discussion revolves around the equations of motion for an electron emitted from a surface, considering various geometries such as an infinite plane or a finite plate. Participants explore the implications of the electric field produced by these surfaces and how it affects the electron's trajectory, with a focus on both theoretical and practical aspects relevant to real-world applications.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the scenario of an electron emitted from a surface held at a positive potential and seeks the equations of motion for this case.
  • Another participant questions the electric field produced by an infinite charged plane and its implications for the electron's motion.
  • Some participants suggest that the infinite plane approximation simplifies the problem, leading to a parabolic trajectory, while others caution that this may not hold true if the electron travels significant distances from the surface.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of knowing the electric field as a function of position, particularly for finite plates, and how this affects the calculations of the electron's motion.
  • One participant proposes treating the problem as a parallel plate capacitor, suggesting that this might provide a more accurate model for the electron's behavior in a vacuum chamber.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the relevance of the potential difference and the gradient of the electric field in determining the electron's trajectory.
  • There are inquiries about the initial kinetic energy of the electron in relation to the potential of the plate, and how this influences the equations of motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to model the electron's motion. Multiple competing views exist regarding the validity of the infinite plane approximation and the necessary conditions for accurate calculations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for more information about the system, such as the charge density on the plate and the gradient of the potential. The discussion highlights the complexity of the problem and the dependence on specific parameters that have not been fully defined.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those working in fields related to electromagnetism, particle physics, or anyone involved in experimental setups involving electron emissions and electric fields.

  • #31
haruspex said:
What I wrote gives you a way to relate the potential of the disc to its charge density.
I am sorry, I just don't see it (get it).
 
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  • #32
NB76 said:
I am sorry, I just don't see it (get it).
##V(x)=2\pi \sigma k(\sqrt{R^2+x^2}-x)\approx 2\pi \sigma kR(1-\frac xR)=2\frac{Qk}R(1-\frac xR)=V_0(1-\frac xR)##.
Equating that to the large x approximation, ##\frac{Qk}x##, gives a quadratic for estimating where you should switch from one approximation to the other.
 
  • #33
The equations of motion for an electron emitted with an initial kinetic energy \(KE\) at an angle \(\alpha\) to the surface can be derived from the laws of conservation of energy and momentum. Since the electron is emitted with an initial speed \(v_0\), its initial kinetic energy is \(KE = \frac{1}{2} m v_0^2\), where \(m\) is the mass of the electron. Under the influence of the electric field created by the potential \(V\), the electron will change its speed and direction of movement. Taking into account the law of conservation of energy (\(E = KE + eV\), where \(e\) is the charge of the electron) and the law of conservation of momentum (\(mv_0 = mv + meV\)), we can obtain equations describing the trajectory of the electron.
 
  • #34
What is the meaning of the meV term in the "conservation of momentum"? Is this a quantity with dimensions of momentum?
 

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