Equilibrium and tension (2 questions)

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The discussion revolves around two questions related to equilibrium and tension in mechanical systems. The first question involves a mass dropped from a spring and the time it takes to reach equilibrium, while the second question concerns the tension at the lowest point of a pendulum.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the use of the equation for the period of a mass-spring system and discuss the conservation of mechanical energy in the context of a pendulum. There are attempts to derive expressions for tension and velocity, along with considerations of forces acting on the pendulum.

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Some participants are providing guidance on the approaches to take, while others are questioning the assumptions regarding initial conditions, such as the height from which the mass is released. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the relationship between velocity and height.

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There is uncertainty about the initial conditions, such as the height or velocity of the mass in the pendulum problem, which may not be explicitly stated in the questions. Participants clarify that their inquiries are general and not strictly homework-related.

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1)A mass 'm' is dropped from a spring with constant 'k'. find the time it takes to reach equilibrium.

im pretty sure i can use this eqn
T = 2*PI*sqrt(m/k)






2)find the tension at the lowest point of the pendulum, with length L and mass M.

there will be zero work done by tension at the bot, it is at a r. angle. I am thinking you have to use k + U = k_0 + U_0 for conservation of mechanical energy, but i was also thinking of using the y component of the problem.

T - m*g = a * m

a = v^2 / r

T = m*g + m*(v^2/r)

v = omega*r and omega = sqrt (g/L)

T = m*g +(m*g) / L


this doesn't seem right
 
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nightshade123 said:
1)A mass 'm' is dropped from a spring with constant 'k'. find the time it takes to reach equilibrium.

im pretty sure i can use this eqn
T = 2*PI*sqrt(m/k)
You will certainly need that result.

2)find the tension at the lowest point of the pendulum, with length L and mass M.

there will be zero work done by tension at the bot, it is at a r. angle. I am thinking you have to use k + U = k_0 + U_0 for conservation of mechanical energy, but i was also thinking of using the y component of the problem.

T - m*g = a * m

a = v^2 / r

T = m*g + m*(v^2/r)
Looks good. How will you find the speed? From what height was it released?

v = omega*r and omega = sqrt (g/L)

T = m*g +(m*g) / L
:confused:
 
wouldnt v or h be given in the question? these are just general questions i have right now not h/w or anything.

but
for velocity

(mv^2)/r = m*g

v^2 = g*rim not to sure what to do for height
 
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