Equilibrium configuration in Lagrangian mechanics

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The discussion centers on the conditions for equilibrium in systems with scleronomic and rheonomic constraints in Lagrangian mechanics. It establishes that the condition ∂V/∂qj=0 is a necessary condition for equilibrium, as it relates to the total force on particles being zero. The author attempts to prove that this condition is also sufficient but questions the validity of their proof due to the presence of rheonomic systems where equilibrium points do not satisfy this condition. The conversation highlights the complexities of generalized forces and virtual work in determining equilibrium.

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Suppose we have a system with scleronomic constraints. Is the condition that ∂V/∂qj=0 for generalized coordinates qj a necessary condition for equilibrium? A sufficient condition?

I managed to "prove" that the above condition is necessary and sufficient for any type of holonomic constaint, sclerenomic or rheonomic. This must be a mistake, because I can find an example of a rheonomic system where the equilibrium points don't satisfy ∂V/∂qj=0.

System is in equilibrium iff \vec{F}_i=0, where \vec{F}_i is the total force on the ith particle.

Now, Q_j=\sum_i \vec{F}_i\cdot\frac{\partial \vec{r}_i}{\partial q_j} where Qj is the generalized force associated with the jth generalized coordinate. So, if \vec{F}_i=0 then Qj = 0. But Q_j=-\frac{\partial V}{\partial q_j}, so ∂V/∂qj=0 is a necessary condition for equilibrium.

Now we prove that it is a sufficient condition. To do this, we find the \vec{F}_i's as a function of the Qjs by making virtual displacements δqj to the generalized coordinates. The the virtual work is
\delta W = \sum_j Q_j \delta q_j = \sum_i \vec{F}_i \cdot \delta \vec{r}_i. Writing \delta q_j = \sum_i \nabla_i q_j\cdot\delta \vec{r}_i (we've tacitly expressed the generalized coordinates as functions of the ri's; \nabla_i q_j stands for \hat{x}_i\frac{\partial q_j}{\partial x_i}+\hat{y}_i\frac{\partial q_j}{\partial y_i}+\hat{z}_i\frac{\partial q_j}{\partial z_i}).

From this, it follows that \sum_i \vec{F}_i\cdot\delta \vec{r}_i = \sum_i (\sum_j Q_j \nabla_i q_j)\cdot \delta \vec{r}_i, implying that \vec{F}_i=\sum_j Q_j \nabla_i q_j herefore, if Q_j = 0, system is in equilibrium. QED?

Now, as far as I can tell I haven't used the assumption that the constraints are scleronomic, but maybe the assumption sneaked in there somewhere. However, there *must* be a mistake somewhere. Can anyone spot it?
 
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