Equivalence Relations for Partition on R^3?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of equivalence relations associated with partitions of R^3 into horizontal planes and concentric spheres. Participants explore the mathematical definitions and implications of these partitions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants attempt to define the equivalence relations for points in R^3 based on their positions relative to horizontal planes and spheres. Questions arise about the necessary conditions for points to be considered equivalent under these partitions.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions that must hold for points to lie on the same horizontal plane or sphere. Some participants provide insights into the equations governing these geometric shapes, while others question and clarify the relationships between the coordinates of the points involved.

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Participants are discussing the implications of specific geometric configurations in R^3, focusing on the definitions of equivalence relations without reaching a definitive conclusion on the exact nature of these relations.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that we partition R^3 into horizontal planes. What equivalence relation is associated with this partition? Suppose that we partition R^3 into concentric spheres, centered at (0,0,0). What equivalence relation is associated with this partition?


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Since it is on R^3, I know that I need to come up with a partition that has an x, y and z coordinate, right?

Could the equivalence relation be (x,y,z)~(a,b,c) if and only if x^2=a^2?

For the second one, could it be something like (x,y,z)~(0,0,0) if and only if x^2=a^2

Thank you very much
 
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In both cases equivalent points lie on the same plane (sphere). What are the equations of these planes (spheres)?
 
There are two questions here. Which you talking about?

Suppose that we partition R^3 into horizontal planes. What equivalence relation is associated with this partition?
The equation of any horizontal plane is z= z0. Okay, what must be true of (x1, y1, z1) and (x2, y2, z2) in order that they be on the same plane?

Suppose that we partition R^3 into concentric spheres, centered at (0,0,0). What equivalence relation is associated with this partition?
A sphere centered at (0,0,0) has equation x2+ y2+ z2= R2. What must be true of (x1, y1, z1) and (x2, y2, z2) if they lie on the same sphere?
 
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Suppose that we partition R^3 into horizontal planes. What equivalence relation is associated with this partition?

The equation of any horizontal plane is z= z0. Okay, what must be true of (x1, y1, z1) and (x2, y2, z2) in order that they be on the same plane?

Z1 and Z2 have to be the same, right? If this is the case, would the partition be something like {{x,y1, n}, {w,y,n}}


Suppose that we partition R^3 into concentric spheres, centered at (0,0,0). What equivalence relation is associated with this partition?

A sphere centered at (0,0,0) has equation x2+ y2+ z2= R2. What must be true of (x1, y1, z1) and (x2, y2, z2) if they lie on the same sphere? Doesn't the z coordinate have to be the same?

Thank you
 
A sphere centered at (0,0,0) has equation x2+ y2+ z2= R2[\sup]. What must be true of (x1, y1, z1) and (x2, y2, z2) if they lie on the same sphere?
Doesn't the z coordinate have to be the same?

No, that was the problem before with planes. If (x1, y1, z1) and (x2, y2, z2) lie on the same sphere then they must both satisfy the equation of that sphere: x12+ y12+ z12= R2 and x22+ y22+ z22= R2 so
x12+ y12+ z12=x22+ y22+ z22.
 
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