Error propagation and symmetric errors

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This discussion addresses the interpretation of symmetric errors in error propagation, particularly in the context of kinetic energy calculations using the formula ##E = \frac{mv^2}{2}##. The user highlights a discrepancy between symmetric uncertainties in velocity and the resulting asymmetric uncertainties in energy. It is established that while symmetric uncertainties can be reported for velocity, the derived energy uncertainties may not maintain symmetry due to the non-linear relationship between the variables. The importance of distinguishing between absolute uncertainties and relative uncertainties is emphasized, with a recommendation to use ##\sigma_v## for clarity.

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Hello! I am a bit confused about how to interpret symmetric error when doing error propagation. For example, if I have ##E = \frac{mv^2}{2}##, and I do error propagation I get ##\frac{dE}{E} = 2\frac{dv}{v}##. Which implies that if I have v being normally distributed, and hence having a symmetric error (by this I mean that the upper and lower limit of the uncertainty interval in the value is the same), the same is true for E, as that formula is predicting just one ##dE## and people would quote (at least in most of the papers I read) it as ##E \pm dE##. However if I have say, ##E = 1000## eV, ##dE = 100## eV, ##m = 100## amu and I calculate the associated speed, I get, for ##E = 1000## eV, ##v = 43926## m/s, for ##E = 1100## eV, ##v = 46070## m/s and for ##E = 900## eV, ##v = 41672## m/s and as you can see, the associated uncertainties on v are not symmetric. So how should I think of the symmetric uncertainty given when doing error propagation, as when plugging in the numbers this is not the case. Doesn't it mean that if I have a symmetric (gaussian) error on ##v## the error on ##E## will not be symmetric? And is this not the case most of the time, except when there is a linear relationship between the variables? Thank you!
 
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First, you need to decide if you are going to analyze and report relative uncertainties or uncertainties. You are confusing things by mixing them. ##\sigma_v## is the uncertainty in ##v## and ##\frac{\sigma_v}{v}## is the relative uncertainty in ##v##. If one is symmetric then the other is usually not, so you need to be clear about what you are saying is symmetric.

By the way, I would not use ##dv## for an uncertainty, I would use ##\sigma_v##. Your notation risks lots of confusion with derivatives.
 

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