What Is Earth's Escape Velocity and Why Don't Rockets Reach It Immediately?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of Earth's escape velocity, specifically addressing the apparent contradiction between the definition of escape velocity and the operational characteristics of rockets during launch. It explores theoretical aspects of escape velocity and practical considerations in rocket propulsion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that Earth's escape velocity is approximately 41,000 kph and questions why rockets do not reach this speed immediately after launch.
  • Another participant explains that a rocket does not need to achieve escape velocity right from the start due to the continuous force provided by its engines, which counteracts gravity.
  • A further elaboration compares a rocket to a projectile from a cannon, noting that the latter must reach escape velocity to avoid falling back, while a rocket is aided by its engines.
  • Another participant adds that most rockets do not need to reach escape velocity at all, as they often place objects into orbit around Earth instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that rockets do not need to reach escape velocity immediately and that the engines provide a continuous force. However, there is no consensus on the implications of escape velocity in practical rocket launches versus theoretical definitions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the nuances of how escape velocity is defined in different contexts or the specific mechanics of rocket propulsion at various altitudes.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals curious about the principles of rocket science, gravitational physics, and the mechanics of space travel.

Gilad Barnea
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Hi,

First FYI, I have no education in physics.
Anyway -

I know Earth's escape velocity is about 41,000 kph. Anything less, and you'll eventually fall down back to earth.

Two points that seem to contradict each other -
1. Escape velocity gets decreased the farther away you are from the center of mass.
2. I'm pretty sure most rockets I've seen don't accelerate to 41,000 kph right off the bat. They take some time to reach full speed.

So - If you managed to launch the rocket from the ground, that's the hardest part by definition. Getting it from an altitude of 100m to 200m requires less force than from 0m to 100m. Yet the rocket doesn't reach 41,000 kph before the 100m mark. And it could be even slower the higher up it goes. So it seems you start off slow (not 41,000 kph) and get even slower until you're out of Earth gravity well.

Where does the 41,000 kph thing come into play?Thanks!
 
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The rocket does not need to reach escape velocity right from the start because there is a force acting on it due to the engines. The escape velocity is the velocity an object needs to escape the gravitational field if there are no forces other than gravity acting on it.
 
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To elaborate a little, if I shoot an object out of a cannon, it needs to be traveling at escape velocity by the time it leaves the cannon or it will fall back to Earth. This is because, as Orodruin said, there is no other force acting on the projectile other than gravity (we're ignoring air friction here).

However, a rocket has a constant force from the engines acting against gravity, so it doesn't need to reach escape velocity.
 
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Thanks! Got it.
 
Most rockets don't even need to reach escape velocity. They just put objects in orbits around Earth. If the satellites "escape" then it's pretty bad.:)
 
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