Estimating Resistivity of Amorphous Metal - Condensed Matter

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The discussion revolves around estimating the resistivity of an amorphous metal, specifically focusing on the relationship between mean free path and atomic spacing. Participants are comparing their findings to crystalline copper and exploring the implications of the disordered structure of amorphous metals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to estimate the mean free path and its relation to atomic spacing, questioning what reasonable values to use for calculations. There is discussion about the implications of amorphous structures on these estimates.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using approximate values for atomic size, density, and atomic weight. There is an acknowledgment of the confusion surrounding the properties of amorphous metals, and a few participants are exploring the implications of different atomic spacings.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the mean free path is expected to be on the order of atomic spacing, but there is uncertainty about how to define this for amorphous metals. The discussion includes considerations of density and the nature of amorphous versus crystalline structures.

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Homework Statement


Estimate the resistivity of an amorphous metal whose mean free path is of the order of an atomic spacing. Compare your answer to crystalline copper.

Homework Equations


VF = h(bar) KF / m
VF = l / τ
ρ = m / n e2 τ

The Attempt at a Solution



I think my real issue with this question is I'm not sure what are reasonable numbers to estimate with.

We need to find τ to plug into ρ = m / n e2 τ

Using VF = l / τ we can rearrange to get τ = l / VFfor l:

We are told the mean free path, l, is of the order of an atomic spacing but I am not sure what is a reasonable estimation of this is?

for VF:

VF = h(bar) KF / m

KF3 = 3π2n where n = NAρ/atomic weight

Again I am not sure what to use as my values for ρ and atomic weight. It seems as though I am missing something about amorphous metals. I understand that they have disordered structures but how can i make an estimation for KF with that little information.

Thanks in advance to anyone that replies and apologies if this is a bit of a basic question.

 
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12x4 said:
We are told the mean free path, l, is of the order of an atomic spacing but I am not sure what is a reasonable estimation of this is?
A factor of 2 does not matter here, so you can look up the size of atoms of your favorite metal and use this. Same for density and atomic weight.

In general, the rough size of atoms (order of magnitude) is something you should know.
 
mfb said:
A factor of 2 does not matter here, so you can look up the size of atoms of your favorite metal and use this. Same for density and atomic weight.

In general, the rough size of atoms (order of magnitude) is something you should know.

Thank you for your reply. I think I am still getting a bit confused as, as I understand it amorphous metals are glasses and therefore, depending on their density, can have a much larger atomic spacing?

Regardless i'll complete the question with a spacing of a few angstroms. Thank you
 
12x4 said:
as I understand it amorphous metals are glasses and therefore, depending on their density, can have a much larger atomic spacing?
As I said, a factor of 2 does not matter here. A few angstrom is fine.
 

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