Euler's Relationship: Solving Vt=V0ejwt

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The discussion revolves around Euler's relationship and its application in representing AC voltage, specifically in the context of the equation Vt=V0ejwt. Participants are exploring the implications of using the real part of the complex exponential function in this scenario.

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  • Participants are questioning the absence of the imaginary part (jsinα) in the context of AC voltage representation. They are exploring why only the real part (cos wt) is utilized and what this means for the imaginary component.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the real and imaginary parts of complex numbers. Some participants have provided insights into the notation used for real parts, while others are still seeking clarity on the implications of neglecting the imaginary part in practical applications.

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May be it's a stupid question but I can't figure it out.

according to Eulers Relationship:
ej[tex]\alpha[/tex]=cos[tex]\alpha[/tex]+jsin[tex]\alpha[/tex]

on the other hand I have equation:
Vt=V0cos wt
and it can be rewritten as:
Vt=V0ejwt

where V is voltage in AC (see link below)
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/electric/impcom.html"

In this case cos wt is at the place of cos[tex]\alpha[/tex], but what I can't understand is, where did jsin [tex]\alpha[/tex] go?
 
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I quote, with added emphasis:

The link you provided said:
The real part of a complex exponential function can be used to represent an AC voltage or current.
 
that is what I am asking about. and what happens with the imaginary part? And if we can simply neglect it, then why?
 
Two miniature ideas to pay attention to:

  1. Re(eix) is often more convenient than cos(x)
  2. Im(eix) may tell you something else that's interesting
 
After searching through the web, only thing I could conclude and understand is that after several transformation from ejx=cosx+jsinx I come to:
cosx=(eix+e-ix)/2
but, what I can't understand is the equation:
(eix+e-ix)/2=R{eix}
well, the wikipedia says that:
Given the symmetry, we only need to perform the analysis for one right-hand term; the results will be identical for the other. At the end of any calculation, we may return to real-valued sinusoids by further noting that
coswt=R{ejwt}
In other words, we simply take the real part of the result.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_impedance" Validity of comples representation.

May be it is simple math, but I can't understand if there is any special meaning of curly brackets.
 
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If z= x+ iy then the real part of z is Rz= x.

It's exactly the same thing as if I say "the x-coordinate of the point (2, 3) is 2".

That's all it is- it's not the { } that is important but the "R".

If [itex]e^{j\omega t}= cos(\omega t)+ j sin(\omega t)[/itex] then the "real part" is [itex]cos(\omega t)[/itex] and the "imaginary part' is [itex]sin(\omega t)[/itex] (notice that both "real part" and "imaginary part" of a complex number are real numbers).

[itex]R(e^{j\omega t}) cos(\omega t)[/itex] and [itex]I(e^{j\omega t}) sin(\omega t)[/itex].
 

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