Euler's Theorem Converting from Trignometric to Exponential Form

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The discussion revolves around converting trigonometric expressions into exponential form using Euler's Theorem, specifically focusing on the expressions r(cos u + i sin u) and t(cos v + i sin v). Participants are exploring the implications of this conversion in the context of amplitudes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of trigonometric forms to exponential forms and the implications for the amplitudes of products of these expressions. Questions arise regarding the simplification of products and the treatment of constants.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the conversion process and exploring the relationship between the amplitudes of the products. Some guidance has been offered regarding the simplification of the expressions, but there is no explicit consensus on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, focusing on proving relationships rather than deriving final answers. There is an emphasis on understanding the properties of the expressions involved.

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r(cos u + i sin u)


t(cos v + i sin v)

How do I convert these into exponential form using Euler's Theorem?
 
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Welcome to PF!

jaylwood said:
r(cos u + i sin u)

t(cos v + i sin v)

How do I convert these into exponential form using Euler's Theorem?

Hi jaylwood! Welcome to PF! :smile:

cos u + i sin u = eiu :smile:

(I don't understand why you're not recognising that? :confused:)
 
okay here is the problem i have. Given x = r(cos u + i sin u) and y = t(cos v + i sin v)
Prove that the amplitude of (xy) is the sum of their amplitudes. I don't understand where to go with it.
 
jaylwood said:
okay here is the problem i have. Given x = r(cos u + i sin u) and y = t(cos v + i sin v)
Prove that the amplitude of (xy) is the sum of their amplitudes. I don't understand where to go with it.

ah … so that's the problem!

ok … x = r eiu, y = t eiv

so multiply them, and you get xy = … ? :smile:
 
rt eiu eiv What do i do to simplify that? Or reconvert it back to trignometric form?
 
jaylwood said:
rt eiu eiv What do i do to simplify that?

oh come on …

eiu eiv = … ? :smile:
 
ei(u+v)
 
amplitude …

jaylwood said:
ei(u+v)

(just got up … :zzz:)

That's right! :smile:

So the amplitude of xy is … ?
 
u+v ? but what happens to the rt?
 
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jaylwood said:
u+v ?

Yes! :smile:

(it's that easy :biggrin:)

Any other problems?
 
  • #11
what happens to the rt?
 
  • #12
jaylwood said:
what happens to the rt?

They're just ordinary numbers.

Treat them as usual …

xy = rt ei(u+v) :smile:
 
  • #13
So what would be my final answer?
 
  • #14
jaylwood said:
So what would be my final answer?

Well, the question was …
jaylwood said:
Prove that the amplitude of (xy) is the sum of their amplitudes.
… so the answer is that the amplitude of their sum is u + v, which is the sum of their amplitudes! :smile:

(which is why you didn't need to bother with x and t at the end :wink:)
 
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Thank you so much.
 

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