Euquations of kinematics in two dimensions

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving projectile motion, specifically analyzing the flight of a golf ball hit at a speed of 26.0 m/s. The original poster seeks to determine the time the ball spends in the air and the maximum distance it can travel before landing on the green, which is at the same elevation as the tee.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to find the vertical and horizontal components of the initial velocity but is unsure how to proceed without knowing the angle of projection. They express confusion regarding the formulas applicable to the problem.
  • Some participants suggest using specific projectile motion formulas and experimenting with different launch angles to determine the maximum distance.
  • Questions arise about how to identify the optimal angle for maximum distance, with some participants proposing practical experimentation as a method to explore this.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting the use of different angles and formulas. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, as multiple interpretations and strategies are being explored.

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The original poster is constrained by missing information regarding the vertical component of the initial velocity and the angle of projection, which complicates their ability to solve the problem. There is also a mention of typical classroom practices that involve experimenting with angles to find optimal results.

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A golfer imparts a speed fo 26.0m/s to a ball, and it travels the maximum possible distance before landing on the green. The tee and the green are at the same elevation. A.) How much time does the ball spend in the air? B.) What is the longest "Hole in one" that the golfer can make, if the ball does not roll when it hits the green.

a.) Acceleration of Y= -9.80 Voy=?? and Vy=26m/s and were trying to figure out the T. Since I'm missing Voy and I don't have Vox I can't figure Voy out and I don't know what formula to use not having having Time or Voy.

b.) I know the problem is looking for "Y" displacement but since i can't figure out part A i can't really figure out part b.
Please help!
 
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Your best bet for these 2D projectile questions is to always write two headings and the appropriate formulas for the type of motion involved:
HORIZONTAL
d = vt

VERTICAL
V = Vi + at, d = Vi*t + .5*a*t^2

In this case it is difficult to separate the 26 m/s into its horizontal and vertical components unless you know the angle that gives the "maximum possible distance". Usually in physics courses, you get to try shooting the ball and many different angles to discover the best angle. If you haven't done that yet, you could do it with this problem.
 
In this case it is difficult to separate the 26 m/s into its horizontal and vertical components unless you know the angle that gives the "maximum possible distance". Usually in physics courses, you get to try shooting the ball and many different angles to discover the best angle. If you haven't done that yet, you could do it with this problem.

I'm not sure how you would find the best angle??
 
Try 30 degrees and calculate how far it goes. Then try 35, 40, 45, 50 and so on. You should see a maximum. When you do, try going a degree at a time to pin it down. It is worth making a spreadsheet to automate the process. Of course you could ask someone for the answer, but it is really good to figure it out yourself. If you are handy with algebra, you can carry through the calculation with a variable angle A and get a function for the distance. Graph the function vs A to see where the maximum is. Or use calculus to get the maximum if you know that.
 

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