Evaluate Series Convergence Analytically

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the analytical evaluation of the series \(\sum_{i=1}^\infty \frac{i}{2^i}\). Participants explore various methods to approach the problem, including the use of derivatives and alternative summation techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the series converges by the ratio test and seeks an analytical evaluation.
  • Another participant suggests using the known sum \(\sum_{n=1}^{+\infty} x^n\) for \(|x|<1\) and proposes taking derivatives to find a solution.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of taking derivatives, with one expressing confusion over the index used in the derivative notation.
  • A different approach is introduced, where the nth term of the sum is expressed as a repeated fraction, leading to a column summation method.
  • There is a discussion about selecting a suitable value for \(x\) within the convergence radius, with some participants questioning the dependency of \(x\) on \(n\).
  • Clarifications are made regarding the constant nature of \(x\) in the context of the series evaluation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods to evaluate the series, with no consensus reached on a single approach. Some methods are proposed and debated, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best analytical technique.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity in notation and the choice of variables, indicating potential limitations in understanding the methods discussed.

Max.Planck
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Hi, while reading some artificial intelligence book, i came upon the following sum. How can I evaluate it analytically, so not guess it by computing many terms? It's easy to see by ratio test that it converges (intuitively too, since its a linear vs exponential function).

[itex]\sum_{i=1}^\infty \frac{i}{2^i}[/itex]
 
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Do you know the sum of

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{+\infty} x^n[/tex]

for |x|<1 ??

Now take derivatives.
 
micromass said:
Do you know the sum of

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{+\infty} x^n[/tex]

for |x|<1 ??

Now take derivatives.

I know the sum, it evaluates to:
[tex]\frac{1}{1-x}-1[/tex]

But, how will the derivatives help? The i-th derivative with respect to x gives me:

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n!}{(n-i)!}x^{n-i}[/tex]
 
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Max.Planck said:
I know the sum, it evaluates to:
[tex]\frac{1}{1-x}-1[/tex]

But, how will the derivatives help? The i-th derivative with respect to x gives me:

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n!}{(n-i)!}x^{n-i}[/tex]



Why would you take the i-th derivative if you were said "the derivative? I find that i as index pretty confussing and annoying, so I'll change it:
[tex]\frac{1}{1-x}-1=\sum_{n=1}^\infty x^n\Longrightarrow \frac{1}{(1-x)^2}=\sum_{n=1}^\infty nx^{n-1}[/tex]

and now just choose a convenient x within the convergence radius...

DonAntonio
 
I offer another way (not very rigorous, but still intuitive.)
The nth term of the sum can be written as
[tex]\left(\frac{1}{2^n}+\frac{1}{2^n}...+\frac{1}{2^n}\right)[/tex]
where we have the fraction repeated n times. Now look at this structure:

1/2
1/4+1/4
1/8+1/8+1/8
....

Now sum columns instead of the rows!
 
DonAntonio said:
Why would you take the i-th derivative if you were said "the derivative? I find that i as index pretty confussing and annoying, so I'll change it:
[tex]\frac{1}{1-x}-1=\sum_{n=1}^\infty x^n\Longrightarrow \frac{1}{(1-x)^2}=\sum_{n=1}^\infty nx^{n-1}[/tex]

and now just choose a convenient x within the convergence radius...

DonAntonio

But how do you choose that x? Shouldn't

[tex]x^{n-1}=(1/2)^{n}[/tex]

But then x will be a term dependent on n...
 
Max.Planck said:
But how do you choose that x? Shouldn't

[tex]x^{n-1}=(1/2)^{n}[/tex]

But then x will be a term dependent on n...


...and thus [itex]\,\displaystyle{ x^{n-1}=\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{n-1}}[/itex]...! And of course, taking off a factor of 0.5, x is a constant.

DonAntonio
 
DonAntonio said:
...and thus [itex]\,\displaystyle{ x^{n-1}=\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{n-1}}[/itex]...! And of course, taking off a factor of 0.5, x is a constant.

DonAntonio

Ah right lol, thank you very much.
 

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