Evaluate the Following Line Integral Part 2

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the line integral \(\int_c zdx+xdy+ydz\) along a curve defined by the parametric equations \(t^2\vec i +t^3 \vec j +t^2 \vec k\). Participants are exploring the formulation of the integral and the representation of the differential elements involved.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss whether the integral can be expressed in vector form and question the correct representation of the differential \(d\vec r(t)\). There is an exploration of how to relate the components of the integral to the parametric definitions of the curve.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify the relationships between the components of the integral and the parametric equations. There is a focus on understanding the formulation of \(d\vec r\) and its implications for evaluating the integral.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. The discussion reflects an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



\displaystyle \int_c zdx+xdy+ydz where C is given by t^2\vec i +t^3 \vec j +t^2 \vec k

Can this \displaystyle \int_c zdx+xdy+ydz be written as \displaystyle \int_c z\vec i+x \vec j+y \vec k?

I believe I need to evalute the integral \displaystyle \int_c \vec F( \vec r (t)) d\vec r(t)...?

How do I proceed?
 
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Hi again bugatti79! :smile:

bugatti79 said:

Homework Statement



\displaystyle \int_c zdx+xdy+ydz where C is given by t^2\vec i +t^3 \vec j +t^2 \vec k

Can this \displaystyle \int_c zdx+xdy+ydz be written as \displaystyle \int_c z\vec i+x \vec j+y \vec k?

It should be:
\int_c (z\vec i+x \vec j+y \vec k) \cdot d\vec r(t)


bugatti79 said:
I believe I need to evalute the integral \displaystyle \int_c \vec F( \vec r (t)) d\vec r(t)...?

How do I proceed?

What would d\vec r(t) be?
 
I like Serena said:
Hi again bugatti79! :smile:



It should be:
\int_c (z\vec i+x \vec j+y \vec k) \cdot d\vec r(t)

How did you establish this?

I like Serena said:
What would d\vec r(t) be

From what you have shown I rearranged to find d\vec r = \vec i dx+\vec j dy+ \vec k dz...?

No, that wouldn't be right as dr is a function of t...

d\vec r = d(t^2 \vec i +t^3\vec j+ t^2\vec k)
 
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bugatti79 said:
How did you establish this?

What you have is a dot product:
zdx+xdy+ydz=(z,x,y) \cdot (dx,dy,dz)

The vector (z,x,y) corresponds to your function \vec F(\vec r)

The vector (dx,dy,dz) corresponds to your d\vec r(t)

The vector (x,y,z) corresponds to your \vec r(t)



bugatti79 said:
From what you have shown I rearranged to find d\vec r = \vec i dx+\vec j dy+ \vec k dz...?

No, that wouldn't be right as dr is a function of t...

d\vec r = d(t^2 \vec i +t^3\vec j+ t^2\vec k)

Yes, the latter.
Can you work this out as a derivative?
 
I like Serena said:
Hi again bugatti79! :smile:



It should be:
\int_c (z\vec i+x \vec j+y \vec k) \cdot d\vec r(t)




What would d\vec r(t) be?

\displaystyle \int_c (z\vec i+x \vec j+y \vec k) \cdot d\vec r(t)=\int_c (t^2 \vec i+t^2 \vec j+t^3 \vec k) \cdot (2t \vec i + 3t^2 \vec j + 2t \vec k)dt = \int_{0}^{1} (2t^3 +3t^4+2t^4) dt...?
 
bugatti79 said:
\displaystyle \int_c (z\vec i+x \vec j+y \vec k) \cdot d\vec r(t)=\int_c (t^2 \vec i+t^2 \vec j+t^3 \vec k) \cdot (2t \vec i + 3t^2 \vec j + 2t \vec k)dt = \int_{0}^{1} (2t^3 +3t^4+2t^4) dt...?

Yep!
(That was easy, was it not? :wink:)
 
Cheers! There will be more trickier ones along the way. :-) Thanks
 

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