Evaluating Improper Integral: 6/(5x-2) from -∞ to 0

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral of the function 6/(5x-2) from negative infinity to 0. Participants are exploring the implications of variable substitution and the behavior of logarithmic functions within the context of the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of a change of variables and the implications of using logarithmic functions when the variable is negative. There are questions about the appropriateness of using ln(u) as an antiderivative and the correct substitution to simplify the integral.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants questioning the effectiveness of previous substitutions and seeking clarification on the derivation of new substitutions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of absolute values in logarithmic functions, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the limits of integration and the behavior of the integrand at those limits. Participants are also grappling with the definitions and properties of logarithmic functions in relation to negative values.

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Regarding the integral from -infinity to 0

of 6/(5x-2)


--> I arrive at 6/5*ln(u), is this the right thing?

How would I evaluate something like ln(-2), or do I just assume it is divergent since it the other limit will come out to neg infinity?
 
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You have made the change of variables

\int_{-\infty}^{0}\frac{6}{5x-2}dx = \frac{6}{5}\int_{-\infty}^{-2}\frac{du}{u}

But obviously, it's not true that ln(u) is an antiderivative of 1/u on the domain (-\infinity,-2) simply because ln(u) is not defined there. So your change of variable was not so useful. Try u=2-5x.
 
wait, do you mean 5x - 2?
 
ln(u) is not the antiderivative of 1/u over the nonzero reals. ln(u) is a simplification that is only valid for positive u.
 
So, what substitution should I use?
 
frasifrasi said:
So, what substitution should I use?

Hurkyl is trying to get you to recall ln(|u|) is also an antiderivative for 1/u.
 
I am still unsure wth I should do -- u-subs or what?

Thank you.
 
frasifrasi said:
I am still unsure wth I should do -- u-subs or what?

Thank you.

You already did the u-subs correctly. The antiderivative is (6/5)*ln(|5x-2|). Now you just have to think what happens if you put the limits in.
 
frasifrasi said:
wait, do you mean 5x - 2?

No, I mean 2-5x. Try it.
 
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where did that come from, though?
 
  • #11
it comes from choosing a change of coordinate such that the bounds of the integral become positive, so that now ln(u) is an antiderivative to the integrand.
 
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But how was that derived, can anyone explain?
 
  • #13
Because with u(x)=5x-2, the upper bound of the intregral became -2. So using u(x) = -(5x-2), instead, it becomes -(-2)=2
 
  • #14
If u is negative, |u|= -u. Since, on this range, 5x-2 is negative, |5x-2|= 2- 5x.
 

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