Evaluating Limits: Explaining Why Limit of f(x) Does Not Exist at x → 1

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a function defined on a specific set of points as x approaches 1. The function in question is f(x) = 3x - 1, where the domain D consists of values of the form 1/n for natural numbers n. Participants are tasked with explaining why the limit does not exist at this point.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the definition of limits and question the existence of a sequence converging to 1 within the defined domain. There is a discussion about whether the limit from the left or right might exist, with some participants expressing confusion about the implications of the sequence 1/n approaching 1.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest that the limit from the left may have a better chance of existing, while others assert that it does not exist. There is no explicit consensus, but the discussion is delving into the nuances of the definitions and properties of limits.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the set D only includes values less than or equal to 1, which raises questions about the behavior of the function as it approaches 1. The constraints of the domain are central to the discussion, as they influence the analysis of the limit.

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Homework Statement



Consider a function f: D∈R, where D = {1/n for natural numbers n (1, 2, 3, 4, etc.)} and f(x) = 3x - 1 for all x in D. Explain why the limit of f(x) as x → 1 does not exist.

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Uh I figured it would exist. We know a function does not have a limit at c if and only if there exists a sequence (x_n) where x_n ≠ c for all natural numbers n such that (x_n) converges to c but the sequence (f(x_n)) does not converge in the reals.

there will not exist such a sequence in D that converges to 1 because x_n cannot equal 1 for any n. so the limit must exist. i mean why wouldn't the limit exist?
 
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stripes said:

Homework Statement



Consider a function f: D∈R, where D = {1/n for natural numbers n (1, 2, 3, 4, etc.)} and f(x) = 3x - 1 for all x in D. Explain why the limit of f(x) as x → 1 does not exist.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Uh I figured it would exist. We know a function does not have a limit at c if and only if there exists a sequence (x_n) where x_n ≠ c for all natural numbers n such that (x_n) converges to c but the sequence (f(x_n)) does not converge in the reals.

there will not exist such a sequence in D that converges to 1 because x_n cannot equal 1 for any n. so the limit must exist.
x1 = 1/1 = 1, right?
stripes said:
i mean why wouldn't the limit exist?
 
Mark44 said:
x1 = 1/1 = 1, right?

does this have to do with the fact that the limit from the left does not exist? but 1/n is always less than or equal to 1...so things seem well-defined...
 
The limit from the left has a better chance of existing than the limit from the right, which is not to say that the limit from the left exists. It might be helpful to sketch a graph of f, keeping in mind that the inputs to f come from your set D.
 
i don't quite understand the notion of a limit from one direction having a better chance of existing. to me, it is extremely clear the limit from the left does not exist, so the limit itself doesn't exist.

but things are confusing because we're using 1/n, which goes a different direction than x. if that makes sense.
 
By "better chance" I wasn't implying that the limit from the left actually existed. What I was getting at is that there are numbers in D that are smaller than 1, but no numbers in D that are larger than 1, so there's no chance of a limit from the right existing.

stripes said:
but things are confusing because we're using 1/n, which goes a different direction than x. if that makes sense.
It might be helpful to look at set D like this:
D = {..., 1/5, 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 1}
Note that you can never get closer to 1 than 1/2 for the numbers in D.
 

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