Evaluating Limits Involving Constants

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a rational expression involving constants as the variable approaches a specific value. The expression in question is \(\lim_{x \rightarrow a} \frac{(x+a)^2-4x^2}{x-a}\), which initially results in an indeterminate form of 0/0.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of breaking the limit into two separate limits and question whether those limits exist. There is exploration of the implications of the numerator and denominator approaching zero. Some participants suggest using long division as a potential method for resolving the limit.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of limit existence being explored. Participants have raised questions about the behavior of the limits as they approach the indeterminate form and have provided insights into the application of limit theorems. There is no explicit consensus on the final outcome, but several productive lines of inquiry have been suggested.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the interpretation of limits involving variables and constants, particularly in relation to the behavior of the expression as it approaches the limit. The discussion reflects the challenges of dealing with indeterminate forms in calculus.

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Homework Statement




Evaluate the limits in the terms of the constants involved:


[itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} \frac{(x+a)^2-4x^2}{x-a}[/itex]

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First I plugged in a to make sure it was indeterminate and it was it ends up being 0/0.

So I tried to break this up into the difference of two limits;


[itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} \frac{(x+a)^2}{x-a}[/itex] -[itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} \frac{4x^2}{x-a}[/itex]

but I again got stuck and I'm not even sure if this attempt is the correct way to go, I also tried to split the numerator into the difference of two squares but that lead to nothing, I'm not really sure where to go from here I'd appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction.
 
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physstudent1 said:
I'm not even sure if this attempt is the correct way to go,
Well, as the limit theorems say... if at least one of those two limits exist, then this is a valid way to compute the oriignal limit. Does either one exist?
 
I would think they both do although they get 0 in the denominator they do not get 0 in the numerator nor infinity
 
physstudent1 said:
I would think they both do although they get 0 in the denominator they do not get 0 in the numerator nor infinity
Well, what do the limit theorems say about the limit of a fraction when the limit of the numerator is nonzero and the limit of the denominator is zero?
 
Hrm. I suppose it depends on how you are interpreting "exist". Certainly, the limit theorems tell you that the limit is not finite -- so if they exist, the only remaining possibilities are positive or negative infinity. So, there are very few possibilities; can you tell if these limits are +infinity, -infinity, or nonexistant?


(My previous statements were made according to the interpretation that "doesn't exist" includes the csaes where the limit goes to +infinity or to -infinity)
 
Hrm. The limit theorems I remember include cases like:

If [itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x)[/itex] exists and is nonzero, and [itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x) = 0[/itex], then [itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) / g(x)[/itex] is either infinite or nonexistant.​
 
i know that if you had actual numbers instead of a I could tell if if they were going to infinity but with a variable its confusing me
 
does it approach -infinity from the left but +infinity from the right won't the top stay 0 near the limit because near the limit x will be very close to the value of a and you will get 4a^2-4a^2
 
waitttt hold on can't you use long division for these types of problems I am looking through my old calculus notebook and I see that I used long division for some
 
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physstudent1 said:
does it approach -infinity from the left but +infinity from the right won't the top stay 0 near the limit because near the limit x will be very close to the value of a and you will get 4a^2-4a^2

physstudent1 said:
waitttt hold on can't you use long division for these types of problems I am looking through my old calculus notebook and I see that I used long division for some
You're right on both counts! You have both determined why your approach won't work, and you have recalled an approach that will work!
 
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:_) is the answer -4a
 
  • #12
I agree with that.
 
  • #13
thanks for all the help hurkyl
 

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