Evaluating Line Integral F over C: a Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a line integral of the vector field F = (3x + 2y)i + (2x - y)j over a specified path C, initially defined as the line segment from (0,0) to (1,1) and later considering the curve y = x^2.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different parameterizations for the line segment and the curve, questioning how to express x and y as functions of t. There is discussion about the limits of integration and the application of the integral formula.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided various parameterizations and are evaluating the corresponding integrals. Some have raised questions about the correctness of their expressions and the application of derivatives in the context of the integral. There is an ongoing exploration of different paths and their implications for the integral evaluation.

Contextual Notes

There is a shift in the problem context when considering the curve y = x^2, leading to discussions about how to adjust the parameterization accordingly. Participants are also addressing potential confusion regarding the application of derivatives in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



Let F=(3x+2y)i+(2x-y)j Evaluate [itex]\int_{C}F . dr[/itex] where C is the line segment from (0,0) to (1,1)

Homework Equations



[itex]\int_{a}^{b}[f(x(t),y(t))x'(t) + g(x(t),y(t))y'(t)]dt[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



How do I choose the correct values of x and y as a function of t?
And do I just integrate over a = 0 to b = 1 ?

regards
 
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What parametrization have you found for x(t) and y(t)?
 
i.e. what is a parameterization for the line from (0,0) to (1,1)?
 
I'm using the formula to find
[itex] r(t) = (1-t)(x_{0},y_{0})+t(x_{1},y_{1})<br /> =(1-t)(0,0)+t(1,1)\\<br /> <br /> \text{ so } x = t y = t[/itex] for 0<t<1
 
So is the integral to evaluate

[itex] <br /> \int_{0}^{1} [(3t+2t)3+(2t-t)]dt<br /> [/itex]

regards
 
boneill3 said:
I'm using the formula to find
[itex] r(t) = (1-t)(x_{0},y_{0})+t(x_{1},y_{1})<br /> =(1-t)(0,0)+t(1,1)\\<br /> <br /> \text{ so } x = t y = t[/itex] for 0<t<1
So x= t, y= t. Yes, that goes from (0,0) to (1,1)

boneill3 said:
So is the integral to evaluate

[itex] <br /> \int_{0}^{1} [(3t+2t)3+(2t-t)]dt<br /> [/itex]

regards
where did you get the "3" multiplying (3t+ 2t)?
 
Let F=(3x+2y)i+(2x-y)j

[itex]\int_{a}^{b}[f(x(t),y(t))x'(t) + g(x(t),y(t))y'(t)]dt[/itex]


I got the three from the partial derivative dx of 3x+2y = 3

But I think I may have stuffed up because the formula
says x'(t) which would be 1.

So the integral would be

[itex]\int_{0}^{1} [(3t+2t)+(2t-t)]dt[/itex]


Is that better?
 
boneill3 said:
So is the integral to evaluate

[itex] <br /> \int_{0}^{1} [(3t+2t)3+(2t-t)]dt<br /> [/itex]

regards


yes your limits would be from 0 to 1
 
Hi Guys

If C instead of a line segment is y= x^2 can I substitute x = t so that C is now just
[latex}
fy(t)= t^2
[/itex]

regards
 
  • #10
Sorry,

[itex] fy(t)= t^2[/itex]
 
  • #11
I've used the new parameterization of x = t^2 y = t^2 ( for C y=x^2)

On the original function

So is the integral to evaluate now

[itex]\int_{0}^{1} [(3t+2t)2t+(2t-t)2t]dt[/itex]

Where x'(t) = x'(t^2) = 2t

and

Where y'(t) = y'(t^2) = 2t

Is this right so far?

regards
Brendan
 
  • #12
You need to put x=t^2 and y=t^2 into the definition of the vector F as well, right? Or if you are doing y=x^2, x=t, y=t^2, dx=dt, dy=2tdt. You seem to be mixing up your parametrizations.
 
  • #13
So I need to put it as
[itex]\int_{0}^{1} [(3t^2+2t^2)2t+(2t^2-t^2)2t]dt[/itex]

regards
 
  • #14
Yes, that's right for parametrizing along the line between (0,0) and (1,1) using x=t^2 and y=t^2. And you should get the same answer as using x=t and y=t.
 
  • #15
Thanks for all your help guys
 

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