Evaluating Moment of Area Integral using Geometry

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the moment of area integral, specifically the integral of (r^2 dA) using geometric methods. The original poster is attempting to understand the concept of the moment of area and how to set up the integral correctly for a triangular shape.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral using polar coordinates and question the appropriateness of this approach for a triangle. There are inquiries about the specific shape of the triangle and the axis about which the moment of area is being evaluated. Some participants suggest using Cartesian coordinates instead.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the shape and integration method. There is a lack of consensus on the correct approach, as some participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and the necessary calculations.

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There is uncertainty regarding the specific type of triangle being analyzed and the axis of evaluation. Participants have noted the need for clarity on these points to proceed effectively.

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the moment of area is integral (r^2 dA). With r measured from the origin, use geometry to evaluate this integral in both orders.

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Ok so I set up the integral with dA=rdrd(theta) so with r from 0 to r and theta from 0 to pi/2. i ended up with pir^4/8 which i multiplied by for to account for each quadrant and ended up with (pir^4)/2.
is this correct? incorrect? why? i don't really get what the moment refers to. and also, if i am evaluating the correct integral. please help!
 
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Hi briteliner! :smile:

(have a pi: π and an integral: ∫ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
briteliner said:
the moment of area is integral (r^2 dA). With r measured from the origin, use geometry to evaluate this integral in both orders.

(this is the second moment of area … it measures a body's resistance to bending stress perpendicular to a particular axis :wink:)

What shape are you trying to find the moment of area of, and about what axis? :confused:
 
a triangle, with x and y-axis i think
 
briteliner said:
a triangle, with x and y-axis i think

grrr! what shape of triangle? :rolleyes:

Anyway, you don't need r and θ for a triangle

just use dxdy as usual …

show us what you get. :smile:
 
if b is the height and a is the width, i get (3(b^3)(x^3))/(y^3)
 
briteliner said:
if b is the height and a is the width, i get (3(b^3)(x^3))/(y^3)

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

How can x and y be in the answer?

It should just have a and b.

(btw, is this a right-angled triangle? and you still haven't said what the axis is)

Anyway, show us your full calculations next time. :smile:
 
You're in Nearing's class, aren't you? lol

Pic is a right triangle with vertices at (0,0), (a,0), and (a,b).

Recall how to change the integrand so that you can integrate properly. (How is r related to x and y if you choose to integrate with respect to x & y?)
 
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