Evaluating the instantaneous rate of change using h = 0.1

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The discussion revolves around estimating the instantaneous rate of change of profit based on a profit function related to the number of athletic shirts sold. Participants are tasked with simplifying an algebraic expression using a specific value of h.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to simplify an expression for the instantaneous rate of change but encounter discrepancies in their results. Questions arise regarding the origin of the number 1000 in the calculations and the correct interpretation of the profit function.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide clarifications about the profit function and the variable representing the number of shirts sold. There is acknowledgment of the need for clearer problem statements, and a suggestion is made to adjust the variable used in calculations. A distinction is noted between estimating and evaluating the rate of change.

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Participants express the importance of including all given information, such as the profit function and the context of the variables involved. There is a recognition that the calculations should be based on the number of shirts sold in thousands, which affects the interpretation of the results.

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Homework Statement



Write a simplified algebraic expression, in terms of a and h, to estimate the instantaneous rate of change of the profit for each numeber of athletic shirts sold. Use h = 0.1.


The Attempt at a Solution



{ -0.25(1000+h)^2 + 4(1000+h) + 12 - [ -0.25(1000)^2 + 4(1000) + 12] } / h
{ -0.25(1000000+2000h + h^2) + 4000 + 4h + 12 - [-245 988] } / h
All the constants cancel out to zero which leaves me with
(-0.25h^2 - 496h)/h = -0.25h-496

The when I plug in h = 0.1. I get 496.025 when the answer in the back states 3.475. What am I doing wrong?
 
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needingtoknow said:

Homework Statement



Write a simplified algebraic expression, in terms of a and h, to estimate the instantaneous rate of change of the profit for each numeber of athletic shirts sold. Use h = 0.1.


The Attempt at a Solution



{ -0.25(1000+h)^2 + 4(1000+h) + 12 - [ -0.25(1000)^2 + 4(1000) + 12] } / h
{ -0.25(1000000+2000h + h^2) + 4000 + 4h + 12 - [-245 988] } / h
All the constants cancel out to zero which leaves me with
(-0.25h^2 - 496h)/h = -0.25h-496

The when I plug in h = 0.1. I get 496.025 when the answer in the back states 3.475. What am I doing wrong?

Where does the 1000 come from? Presumably, it's from the number of shirts sold.

It would be helpful if you gave us all of the given information, including the profit function. It's possible that the variable in the profit function represents the number of shirts sold, in thousands.
 
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If the profit for x shirts is given by ##- \frac{1}{4}x^2 + 4x + 12## then I don't see anything wrong. The rate of change could never be ~3.

Hmm, Mark44 makes a very good point, a larger secant could indeed give a lower rate of change.
 
needingtoknow, the point is that you don't tell us what function you have or what the number of shirts is at which you are trying to find the derivative. Mark44 guessed that the number of shirts was 1000 and verty guessed that the function was -(1/4)x^2+ 4x+ 12. Please tell people things like that! Don't make them guess.
 
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Oh sorry I missed to include that. The profit function is P(n) = -0.25n^2 + 4n + 12 where n is the number of athletic shirts sold, in thousands and P ios the profit in thousands of dollars.
 
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and yes 1000 is the number of athletic shirts sold
 
needingtoknow said:
Oh sorry I missed to include that. The profit function is P(n) = -0.25n^2 + 4n + 12 where n is the number of athletic shirts sold, in thousands[/color] and P ios the profit in thousands of dollars.

needingtoknow said:
and yes 1000 is the number of athletic shirts sold

Which means that, as I suspected, n should be 1 in your work, not 1000.

You need to work with this: { -0.25(1+h)^2 + 4(1+h) + 12 - [ -0.25(1)^2 + 4(1) + 12] } / h
 
Oh yes that fixed it, thank you very much! I had a similar problem with an earlier question perhaps it is for the same reason. Thank you!
 
By the way, I notice that you titled this "Evaluating the instantaneous rate of change using h= 0.1" but the problem actually asks you to estimate it. Those are very different things. You cannot, in general, "evaluate" a rate of change using a specific value of h- you have to take the limit as h goes to 0.
 
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