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Can someone show me the steps to evaluating [tex]\zeta(c + xi)[/tex], where [tex]0 \leq c<1[/tex]?
The discussion revolves around evaluating the Riemann zeta function \(\zeta(c + xi)\) for \(0 \leq c < 1\). Participants explore various methods of evaluation, including definitions and analytic continuations, while addressing the complexities involved in the function's behavior across different regions of the complex plane.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to evaluate \(\zeta(c + xi)\) or on the implications of the definitions and analytic continuations discussed. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain throughout the conversation.
Limitations include the unclear applicability of the zeta function definition across different regions, the dependence on the understanding of complex variables, and unresolved questions about the convergence of the series in certain cases.
epkid08 said:Can someone show me the steps to evaluating [tex]\zeta(c + xi)[/tex], where [tex]0 \leq c<1[/tex]?
Count Iblis said:There are many ways. In this case, as long as x is nonzero, you can simply use the definition of the zeta function
[tex]\zeta(s)=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^s}[/tex]
If s has a nonzero imaginary part, the summation will converge. You can then analytically continue this to the positive real axis by adding and subtracting the pole at s = 1.
epkid08 said:I don't really understand the correct usage of s. Isn't s defined as n + xi? So then how can s just equal 1? Or does s refer only to the real part of it?
epkid08 said:The non-trivial zeros of the zeta function happen when [tex]re(\zeta(s)) + im(\zeta(s))=0[/tex], and are said to be equal to [tex]\zeta(1/2+xi)[/tex], right?
CRGreathouse said:Re(s) is the real part of s, which is complex. I don't know what you mean by "how can s just equal 1", since no one's claimed that to be the case. Were you talking about the pole at s = 1? That's the thing that stops you from evaluating zeta(1) -- which is obvious since you're trying to sum the harmonic sequence there.
Yes, [itex]\zeta(s)=0[/itex] at [itex]s=1/2+xi[/itex] for some real values of x.
Kurret said:What is the definition of the zeta function anyway? I only found this:[tex]\zeta(s)=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^s}[/tex]
on wikipedia, but then I read that zeros occur at even negative integers, but I can't see how that fits with this definition...
Count Iblis said:If Im(s) is different from zero, then doesn't the summation converge for 0<Re(s)<1? You'll have an oscillatory summand with decreasing terms...
*-<|:-D=<-< said:That is the definition for Re(s)>1 only. You have to use the analytic continuation to evaluate for the negative even integers.
