Every integer greater than 5 is the sum of three primes?

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The discussion revolves around the Goldbach conjecture, specifically exploring the assertion that every integer greater than 5 can be expressed as the sum of three prime numbers. Participants are examining the relationship between this conjecture and the statement that every even integer greater than 2 is the sum of two primes.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants present cases for both even and odd integers greater than 5, applying Goldbach's conjecture to demonstrate how these integers can be expressed as sums of primes. There are discussions about the implications of proving one statement leads to the other, and some participants question the equivalence of the two conjectures.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various proofs and reasoning attempts, with some participants expressing agreement on the validity of the approaches taken. However, there is no explicit consensus on the overall resolution of the conjectures being discussed.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the Goldbach conjecture holds true, and they are exploring its implications for integers greater than 5 and even integers greater than 2. There is an emphasis on the conditions under which these statements are valid.

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Homework Statement
Prove that the Goldbach conjecture that every even integer greater than ## 2 ## is the sum of two primes is equivalent to the statement that every integer greater than ## 5 ## is the sum of three primes.
[Hint: If ## 2n-2=p_{1}+p_{2} ##, then ## 2n=p_{1}+p_{2}+2 ## and ## 2n+1=p_{1}+p_{2}+3 ##.]
Relevant Equations
None.
Proof:

Let ## a>5 ## be an integer.
Now we consider two cases.
Case #1: Suppose ## a ## is even.
Then ## a=2n ## for ## n\geq 3 ##.
Note that ## a-2=2n-2=2(n-1) ##,
so ## a-2 ## is even.
Applying Goldbach's conjecture produces:
## 2n-2=p_{1}+p_{2} ## as a sum of two primes ## p_{1} ## and ## p_{2} ##.
Thus ## 2n=p_{1}+p_{2}+2 ## is a sum of three primes.
Case #2: Suppose ## a ## is odd.
Then ## a=2n+1 ## for ## n\geq 3 ##.
Note that ## a-3=2n-2=2(n-1) ##,
so ## a-3 ## is also even.
Applying Goldbach's conjecture produces:
## a-3=p_{1}+p_{2} ## as a sum of two primes ## p_{1} ## and ## p_{2} ##.
Thus ## 2n+1=p_{1}+p_{2}+3 ## is a sum of three primes.
Therefore, the Goldbach conjecture that every even integer greater than ## 2 ## is the
sum of two primes is equivalent to the statement that every integer greater than ## 5 ##
is the sum of three primes.
 
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Math100 said:
Homework Statement:: Prove that the Goldbach conjecture that every even integer greater than ## 2 ## is the sum of two primes is equivalent to the statement that every integer greater than ## 5 ## is the sum of three primes.
[Hint: If ## 2n-2=p_{1}+p_{2} ##, then ## 2n=p_{1}+p_{2}+2 ## and ## 2n+1=p_{1}+p_{2}+3 ##.]
Relevant Equations:: None.

Proof:

Let ## a>5 ## be an integer.
Now we consider two cases.
Case #1: Suppose ## a ## is even.
Then ## a=2n ## for ## n\geq 3 ##.
Note that ## a-2=2n-2=2(n-1) ##,
so ## a-2 ## is even.
Applying Goldbach's conjecture produces:
## 2n-2=p_{1}+p_{2} ## as a sum of two primes ## p_{1} ## and ## p_{2} ##.
Thus ## 2n=p_{1}+p_{2}+2 ## is a sum of three primes.
Case #2: Suppose ## a ## is odd.
Then ## a=2n+1 ## for ## n\geq 3 ##.
Note that ## a-3=2n-2=2(n-1) ##,
so ## a-3 ## is also even.
Applying Goldbach's conjecture produces:
## a-3=p_{1}+p_{2} ## as a sum of two primes ## p_{1} ## and ## p_{2} ##.
Thus ## 2n+1=p_{1}+p_{2}+3 ## is a sum of three primes.
Therefore, the Goldbach conjecture that every even integer greater than ## 2 ## is the
sum of two primes is equivalent to the statement that every integer greater than ## 5 ##
is the sum of three primes.
You have shown that given Goldbach then every positive integer greater than five is a sum of three primes.

What is left to show is: If every integer ##n>5## can be written as ##n=p_1+p_2+p_3## the sum of three primes, then every even positive integer greater than two is the sum of two primes.

Equivalence means that one statement implies the other and the other way round.

(Forget about the greater than conditions. Just show it for integers great enough.)
 
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Let ## a>5 ## be an integer.
Now we consider two cases.
Case #1: Suppose ## a ## is even.
Then ## a=2n ## for ## n\geq 3 ##.
Note that ## a-2=2n-2=2(n-1) ##,
so ## a-2 ## is even.
Applying Goldbach's conjecture produces:
## 2n-2=p_{1}+p_{2} ## as a sum of two primes ## p_{1} ## and ## p_{2} ##.
Thus ## 2n=p_{1}+p_{2}+2 ## is a sum of three primes.
Case #2: Suppose ## a ## is odd.
Then ## a=2n+1 ## for ## n\geq 3 ##.
Note that ## a-3=2n-2=2(n-1) ##,
so ## a-3 ## is also even.
Applying Goldbach's conjecture produces:
## a-3=p_{1}+p_{2} ## as a sum of two primes ## p_{1} ## and ## p_{2} ##.
Thus ## 2n+1=p_{1}+p_{2}+3 ## is a sum of three primes.
Conversely, suppose every integer ## a>5 ## is the sum of three primes
such that ## a=p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3} ##.
Let ## a>2 ## be an even integer.
Then ## a+2=2n+2 ## is even and ## a+2>5 ##.
Thus ## a+2=p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3} ## is the sum of three primes ## p_{1}, p_{2} ## and ## p_{3} ##.
Since ## a+2 ## is even,
it follows that at least one of ## p_{1}, p_{2} ## and ## p_{3} ## must be ## 2 ##.
Without loss of generality, assume ## p_{3}=2 ##.
Then ## a+2=p_{1}+p_{2}+2 ##.
Thus ## a=p_{1}+p_{2} ## is a sum of two primes.
Therefore, the Goldbach conjecture that every even integer greater than ## 2 ##
is the sum of two primes is equivalent to the statement that every integer
greater than ## 5 ## is the sum of three primes.
 
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Looks good.
 
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Thank you.
 

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