Exp(tanz) = 1, complex analysis

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The discussion revolves around finding all solutions to the equation e^{\tan z} = 1, where z is a complex number. Participants explore the implications of complex analysis and logarithmic properties in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the legality of taking logarithms of both sides of the equation and how to express tan(z) in terms of complex exponentials. There are questions about the implications of different forms of the equation and the behavior of the solutions based on varying values of n.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some have offered insights into the relationships between the variables and the implications of their findings, while others express confusion about certain aspects of the solutions and the nature of the answers.

Contextual Notes

There are constraints regarding the values of n, particularly the implications of n being zero and its relation to real solutions. Participants also note the complexity of the solutions and the potential for confusion arising from the "clean" nature of the answers presented in textbooks.

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Homework Statement



Find all solutions to:

[tex]e^{\tan z} =1, z\in \mathbb{C}[/tex]

Homework Equations



z = x+yi

[tex]\log z = ln|z| + iargz +2\pihi, h\in \mathbb{Z}[/tex][tex]\log e^{z} = x + iy +2\pihi, h\in \mathbb{Z}[/tex][tex]Log e^{z} = x + iy[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I do not really know how to approach this, I tried to beging with writing tan(z) as Alots of cos(x)sinh(y) etc..

But can I do the Log(e^tan(z)) at the left side, then do the log(1) at the right side? I mean the "only" difference is that you get this [tex]2\pihi, h\in \mathbb{Z}[/tex] on both sides, so you always reduce both these terms to one: [tex]2\piUi, U\in \mathbb{Z}[/tex]

What do you think?
 
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Ok, taking logs you get tan(z)=2*pi*i*n (yes, no need for separate 2*pi*i*n's on both sides. Why not write tan(z) in terms of complex exponentials, let t=e^(iz) and solve the resulting quadratic for t? Guess I'm not sure where you are having problems.
 
so if I write

[tex]\tan z =\dfrac{1}{i} \dfrac{t-t^{-1}}{t+t^{-1}} = \dfrac{1}{i} \dfrac{t^{2}-1}{t^{2}+1}[/tex]

then perform the Log(e^tanz) on left side, then log(1) on right side, is that a "legal" act? or do I have to take log - log /// Log - Log ?..
 
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or you mean AFTER taking log's i write tanz as that?
 
okay this is as far I can get:

[tex]e^{iz} = t[/tex]

[tex]z = - i \ln |t| + argt[/tex]

[tex] \tan z = \dfrac{1}{i} \dfrac{t^{2}-1}{t^{2}+1}; t^{2} \neq -1; \Rightarrow t \neq \pm i[/tex]

[tex]\tan z = \log 1 = 0 +0i + 2\pi ni; n \in \mathbb{Z}[/tex][tex]\Rightarrow \dfrac{1}{i} \dfrac{t^{2}-1}{t^{2}+1} = 2\pi ni[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow \dfrac{t^{2}-1}{t^{2}+1} = -2\pi n[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow t^{2}-1 = -2\pi n(t^{2}+1)[/tex]

...

[tex]\Rightarrow t = \pm \sqrt{\dfrac{2\pi n-1}{2\pi n+1}} \neq -1[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow n \neq 0[/tex]

[tex]t_{1} = "+"sqrt(.. \Rightarrow arg(t_{1}) = 0 + 2\pi k, k \in \mathbb{Z}[/tex]
[tex]t_{2} = "-"sqrt(.. \Rightarrow arg(t_{2}) = \pi + 2\pi k[/tex]

it can be shown that t is always real, if n = -2, we get a negative nominator and a negative denominator, hence the number inside the squareroot is always positive.

[tex]z_{1} = - \dfrac{i}{2} \ln \left( \dfrac{2\pi n-1}{2\pi n+1} \right) + \pi + 2\pi k[/tex]

[tex]z_{2} = - \dfrac{i}{2} \ln \left( \dfrac{2\pi n-1}{2\pi n+1} \right) + 2\pi k[/tex]

Answer in textbook:

[tex]z = k\pi[/tex]

and:

[tex]z = \dfrac{i}{2} \ln \left( \dfrac{2\pi n-1}{2\pi n+1} \right) + \frac{\pi}{2} + 2\pi k[/tex]

LOL I am soooo cloose! =(
 
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I get t^2=(1-2*pi*n)/(1+2*pi*n). So I get a number that is always negative. So I agree with the pi/2 phase in the book answer. But I get +/-pi/2+2*pi*k which is the same thing as pi/2+pi*k. But I'm also getting -i/2 in front of the log. (But I seem to get the right answer with either sign - this is troubling me).
 
yes I did a relly sucky thing in getting the t^2.. I should be ashamed! :)
Dick said:
I get t^2=(1-2*pi*n)/(1+2*pi*n). So I get a number that is always negative.

if n = 0 then it is positive, right? But can not be zero according to the aswer, now why is that?
 
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Aggghhh. And get this, the sign in front of the log doesn't matter either. Take for example the cases n=1 and n=-1. The arguments of the logs are just reciprocals of each other. Must be fun to create obfuscated answers for these things.
 
malawi_glenn said:
yes I did a relly sucky thing in getting the t^2.. I should be ashamed! :)




if n = 0 then it is positive, right? But can not be zero according to the aswer, now why is that?

n=0 gives you the real solutions, the k*pi list. Not to hard so see working it as a separate case.
 
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I got it now, thanks again for all the help. I hope i did not made you indignant.
 
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malawi_glenn said:
I got it now, thanks again for all the help. I hope i did not made you indignant.

I was working to hard to correct my own blunders to become indignant over yours. :smile:
 
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I don't understand why the answers must be so "clean".. it only cunfuses and does not get you learn more about the actual subject.
 
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malawi_glenn said:
I don't understand why the answers must be so "clean".. it only cunfuses and does not get you learn more about the actual subject.

It can be helpful to numerically evaluate a few cases of a solution for small n,k etc and then compare with yours. It's pretty clear when they don't agree - and if they do it can help to make it clearer why.
 

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