Expanding Present Time Universe at Omega 0 = 1: Help Needed

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The discussion revolves around the expansion of the present time formula for a matter-dominated universe at the critical density parameter \(\Omega_{0} = 1\). Participants explore mathematical techniques and challenges associated with this expansion, including the use of substitutions and limits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for the present time of a matter-dominated universe when \(\Omega_{0} > 1\) and seeks assistance in expanding it at \(\Omega_{0} = 1\).
  • Another participant questions the complexity of the formula and asks for its origin.
  • A participant references a source, Kolb and Turner, to validate the formula's correctness.
  • Suggestions are made to simplify the problem using substitutions, such as \(x = \Omega_{0} - 1\) and \(x = (\Omega_{0} - 1)^{1/2}\), to facilitate the expansion.
  • One participant warns that the function \(\cos^{-1}(x)\) is not analytic around \(x=1\) and discusses its behavior near that point.
  • A hint is provided involving trigonometric identities to relate \(\Omega_{0}\) to a parameter \(p\), suggesting a limit approach as \(\Omega_{0}\) approaches 1.
  • A participant mentions successfully obtaining the correct answer using a method attributed to Dickfore.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the complexity of the formula and the methods for expanding it. There is no consensus on the best approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective technique for the expansion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note challenges with differentiability and the behavior of certain functions at specific limits, indicating potential complications in the mathematical process without resolving them.

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the present time of matter dominated universe for [tex]\Omega_{0}>1[/tex] is :
[tex]t_{0}=H_{0}^{-1}\frac{\Omega_{0}} {2(\Omega_{0}-1)^{3/2}}[cos^{-1}(2\Omega_{0}^{-1}-1)-\frac{2}{\Omega_{0}}(\Omega_{0}-1)^{1/2}][/tex]
how to expand this at[tex]\Omega_{o}=1[/tex]??help me
 
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This seems like a much more complicated formula than it should be for a matter-only universe. How did you come by it?
 
you can find this fomula in many books,say Kolb and Turner P53
 
knightq said:
you can find this fomula in many books,say Kolb and Turner P53
Hmm, okay. I'll trust that you have it correct, then.

A first trick is just to make a simple substitution:

[tex]x = \Omega_0 - 1[/tex]

This doesn't change the problem, just makes it easier to work with.

Now, the derivatives are obviously going to get a little bit messy, but whenever you find yourself running into the problem where you have a fraction with both numerator and denominator equal to zero, you merely make use of l'Hôpital's Rule to find the result.
 
yes,let x=[tex]\((Omega_{0}-1)^{1/2}[/tex]will be more simple.the difficulty is we can't expand cos-1(x) at x=1,the caculation through l'hospital is too difficult ,we may differentiate 3 times
 
Hint:

Make:

[tex] 2 \, \Omega^{-1}_{0} - 1 = \cos{2 \, p} \Leftrightarrow \Omega_{0} = \frac{2}{1 + \cos{2 \, p}} = \frac{1}{\cos^{2}{p}}[/tex]

and

[tex] \Omega_{0} - 1 = \frac{1}{\cos^{2}{p}} - 1 = \tan^{2}{p}[/tex]

The limit [itex]\Omega_{0} \rightarrow 1 + 0[/itex] is equivalent to the limit [itex]p \rightarrow 0[/itex] (from any direction).
 
Be careful: arccos(x) is not analytic around x=1. To first order it behaves like √(1-x), so that it is real for x < 1 and imaginary for x > 1.
 
I can get the right answer through Dickfore's method ,thank you!
 
cool. post it here for future generations to learn from your example.
 

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