Expectation value of mean momentum from ground state energy

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The discussion focuses on calculating the expectation values of position and momentum for a particle in a one-dimensional harmonic oscillator potential, defined by the Hamiltonian H = p²/(2m) + (mω²x²)/2. The ground state wave function is given by ψ(x) = (mω/πħ)^(1/4) e^(-mωx²/(2ħ)). The calculated results include = 0, = ħ/(2mω),

= 0, and = mωħ. The participants confirm that the expectation value of the Hamiltonian equals the ground state energy E, validating the approach taken to derive .

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1. The problem statement
Consider a particle of mass m under the action of the one-dimensional harmonic oscillator potential. The Hamiltonian is given by
H = \frac{p^2}{2m} + \frac{m \omega ^2 x^2}{2}
Knowing that the ground state of the particle at a certain instant is described by the wave function
\psi(x) = (\frac{m \omega}{\pi \hbar})^\frac{1}{4} e^{-\frac{m \omega x^2}{2 \hbar}}
calculate (for the ground state)
a) the mean value of the position <x>
b) the mean value of the position squared <x2>
c) the mean value of the momentum <p>
d) the mean value of the momentum squared <p2>

Homework Equations


H = \frac{p^2}{2m} + \frac{m \omega ^2 x^2}{2}
&lt;x^2&gt; = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi^*(x) x^2 \psi(x) dx
&lt;p^2&gt; = - \hbar ^2 \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi^*(x) \frac{\partial^2 \psi(x)}{\partial x^2} dx

The Attempt at a Solution


My question relates to the fourth part of the question so I'll give the first three answers here.
a) &lt;x&gt; = 0
b) &lt;x^2&gt; = \frac{\hbar}{2m \omega}
c) &lt;p&gt; = 0

I attempted to relate <p2> to <x2> by assuming that
H = E = E_k + V = \frac{p^2}{2m} + \frac{1}{2} m \omega^2 x^2 and using the ground state energy of a harmonic oscillator:
E = \frac{1}{2} \hbar \omega
I then took the expectation value of both sides
&lt;E&gt; = \frac{1}{2} \hbar \omega = \frac{1}{2m} &lt;p^2&gt; + \frac{1}{2} m \omega^2 &lt;x^2&gt;
\frac{1}{2} \hbar \omega = \frac{1}{2m}&lt;p^2&gt;+\frac{1}{2}m \omega^2 \frac{\hbar}{2m\omega}
\frac{1}{2} \hbar \omega = \frac{1}{2m}&lt;p^2&gt; + \frac{1}{4}\hbar \omega
&lt;p^2&gt; = \frac{1}{2} m \omega \hbar

I'm just not sure if I'm correct in my assumptions. Can I assume H = E in this situation?
 
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TheBigDig said:
Can I assume H = E in this situation?
No you cannot. H is an operator, E is an energy (scalar). However, you can assume that the expectation value <H> = E1 because ##\psi(x)## is the ground eigenfunction.
 
kuruman said:
No you cannot. H is an operator, E is an energy (scalar). However, you can assume that the expectation value <H> = E1 because ##\psi(x)## is the ground eigenfunction.

So then my answer is correct, I just made the wrong assumption?
 
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TheBigDig said:
So then my answer is correct, I just made the wrong assumption?

Yes, that's a neat shortcut and better than calculating ##\langle p^2 \rangle## by hand.
 
PeroK said:
Yes, that's a neat shortcut and better than calculating ##\langle p^2 \rangle## by hand.
Excellent! Thanks for the confirmation. A few of my classmates have tried out the integral by hand and gotten the same answer. I'm just really lazy.
 

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