Expectation value of momentum in symmetric 2D H.O

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The discussion focuses on calculating the expectation value of momentum, , for two initial states of a symmetric 2D harmonic oscillator represented by kets φ1 and φ2. The participants emphasize the importance of using the correct notation for the momentum operator, which is typically derived from the Schrödinger equation or Heisenberg uncertainty principle. It is clarified that the expectation value should be calculated using the same state in the form , rather than mixing states, as indicated by the transition amplitude concept.

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Homework Statement


Consider the following inital states of the symmetric 2D harmonic oscillator

ket (phi 1) = 1/sqrt(2) (ket(0)_x ket(1)_y + ket (1)_x ket (0)_y)

ket (phi 2) = 1/sqrt(2) (ket(0)_x ket(0)_y + ket (1)_x ket (0)_y)

Calculate the <p_x (t)> for each state

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I am not sure how to work with these kets, I know that for the expectation value using you would do
<phi_1 | p_x (t) | phi_2>

but I don't know how to represent p_x (t) in the notation used in the ketsAny help would be much appreciated.
 
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The expectation value for an operator on a state is <state 1| operator |state 1>. You wrote <state 1| operator |state 2>. Note the 2 in the last ket. That's a transition amplitude as induced by the operator.

Look in your text for a representation of the momentum operator. You should find it near he Heisenberg uncertainty formula, or the Schrödinger equation or some such. You probably want a derivative with some constants.

Notice that the problem says "initial states." So these are not the wave functions. These are the t=0 values. It does not give the x dependence, nor the t dependence. You will need to do some reading in your text to find the 2-D harmonic oscillator and the general solution for it.
 

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