Expectation Values of Angular Momentum Operators

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The discussion focuses on proving that the expectation value of the difference between the squares of the angular momentum operators Lx and Ly is zero for the state |l,m>. Specifically, it establishes that = 0 by leveraging the properties of angular momentum operators and their commutation relations. The key insight is that the expectation values of Lx² and Ly² are equal due to the symmetry of the eigenstates with respect to rotations about the z-axis.

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  • Understanding of angular momentum operators in quantum mechanics
  • Familiarity with commutation relations, specifically [Lx, Ly] = iħLz
  • Knowledge of eigenstates and their properties in quantum mechanics
  • Basic concepts of rotational symmetry in quantum systems
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  • Learn about the ladder operators and their applications in angular momentum
  • Explore the derivation and applications of the commutation relations for angular momentum
  • Investigate the effects of 90-degree rotations on angular momentum eigenstates
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Homework Statement


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< l,m | Lx2 - Ly2 | l,m > = 0

Homework Equations



L2 = Lx2 + Ly2 + Lz2

[ Lx, Ly ] = i [STRIKE]h[/STRIKE] Lz

[ L, Lz ] = i [STRIKE]h[/STRIKE] Lx

[ Lz, Lx ] = i [STRIKE]h[/STRIKE] Ly



The Attempt at a Solution



I tried substituting different commutation values in place of Lx and Ly, but I'm not reducing it any further. I also tried ladder operations, but my professor said they're not needed to solve the problem.
 
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Well I think ladder operators are fine, but there are some "shortcut" ways too:

You could probably get away with just saying that it's "obvious" that
\langle l,m \lvert L_x^2 \lvert l,m \rangle = \langle l,m \lvert L_y^2 \lvert l,m \rangle
because an Lz eigenstate shouldn't know the difference between the x and y directions. If you wanted to make that idea precise, you could find out what happens to the eigenstate and to the angular momentum operators when you do a 90-degree rotation about the z-axis.
 

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