Show that the expectation value of angular momentum <Lx> is zero

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The problem involves demonstrating that the expectation value of angular momentum is zero, situated within the context of quantum mechanics and angular momentum operators.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using ladder operators to express and explore the implications of orthogonality of |l,m⟩ states. There are attempts to manipulate equations involving L± and Lx, but some express uncertainty about how to proceed from their current steps.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different approaches and questioning the utility of certain mathematical manipulations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of orthogonality and the relationships between the angular momentum operators.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be a focus on the relationships between the angular momentum operators and the states involved, with participants noting potential dead ends in their reasoning. The original poster expresses difficulty in progressing from their initial setup.

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Homework Statement



Show that the expectation value of angular momentum <Lx> is zero

Homework Equations



L±|l,m⟩ = SQRT(l(l+1)−m(m±1)h|l,m±1⟩

L± = Lx ± iLy

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm supposed to use ladder operators here to show <Lx> is zero.

I start with <Lx>=<l,m|Lx|l,m> but don't know where to go from here. I've tried different things but all the methods I've tried seem to lead to a dead end...
 
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Jimmy25 said:

Homework Statement



Show that the expectation value of angular momentum <Lx> is zero

Homework Equations



L±|l,m⟩ = SQRT(l(l+1)−m(m±1)h|l,m±1⟩

L± = Lx ± iLy

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm supposed to use ladder operators here to show <Lx> is zero.

I start with <Lx>=<l,m|Lx|l,m> but don't know where to go from here. I've tried different things but all the methods I've tried seem to lead to a dead end...

Solve your second equation to get L_x in term of L_+ and L_-.

Now, substitute this L_x into \langle L_x \rangle and use the first equation to calculate it.
 
I'm not seeing how that would help. Then I just get an equation in terms of L+, L- and Ly.

Lx=L± minus plus iLy
 
Can anyone help me out here?
 
Use what mathfeel said and think about orthogonality of |l,m> states.
 
You have two equations:
\begin{align*}
\hat{L}_+ &= \hat{L}_x + i\hat{L}_y \\
\hat{L}_- &= \hat{L}_x - i\hat{L}_y
\end{align*}Solve them for Lx in terms of L+ and L-.
 

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