Expected value and variance of max{Y_1,Y_2}

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The problem involves independent random variables Y_1 and Y_2, each uniformly distributed on the interval [1,2]. The goal is to determine the probability density function (p.d.f.), expected value, and variance of the random variable X defined as the maximum of Y_1 and Y_2.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of the cumulative distribution function (c.d.f.) and p.d.f. for X, with some suggesting that the original poster's calculations may contain errors. There are questions regarding the expected value of X in relation to the expected values of Y_1 and Y_2.

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There is ongoing discussion regarding the correctness of the derived p.d.f. and c.d.f. Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the original calculations, while others are exploring alternative formulations. The conversation reflects a mix of agreement and differing interpretations without a clear consensus.

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Participants are considering the implications of independence between Y_1 and Y_2 and the constraints of the uniform distribution on the interval [1,2]. There is also mention of using inline LaTeX for clarity in mathematical expressions.

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Homework Statement


Let Y_1,Y_2 be independent random variable with uniform distribution on the interval [1,2]. Define X=max{Y_1,Y_2}. Find p.d.f., expected value and variance.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Since $X=\max\{Y_1,Y_2\}$, this tells $Y_1$ and $Y_2$ must at most $x$. Thus, $\p(\max\{Y_1,Y_2\}\leq x)=\p(\{Y_1\leq x,Y_2\leq x\})=(2-x)^2$ with $1\leq x\leq 2$. So, the $c.d.f.$ of $X$ is
$$\p(x)=
\begin{cases}
0&\text{if $x<1$}\\
(2-x)^2 & \text{if $1\leq x\leq 2$}\\
1& \text{if $x>2$}
\end{cases}$$ where $a,b\in[1,2]$.
Then, the $p.d.f.$ is
$$p(x)=
\begin{cases}
2(2-x)&\;\;\text{if $1\leq a,b\leq 2$}\\
0&\;\;\text{otherwise}
\end{cases}$$
The expected value of $X$ is
$$E(X)=\int_{1}^{2}(4x-2x^2)\,dx=\frac{4}{3}$$
We also have
$$E(X^2)=\int_{1}^{2}(4x^2-2x^3)\,dx=\frac{11}{6}$$
Therefore, the variance is
$$V(X)=E(X^2)-(E(X))^2=\frac{11}{6}-\left(\frac{4}{3}\right)^2=\frac{1}{18}$$
 
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There is a sign error in the derivation of the cdf.

This is also visible in the expectation value: The maximum of two variables cannot have an expectation value below the expectation value of its arguments (which is 3/2 > 4/3).

By the way, you can use inline LaTeX with double # instead of single $.
 
HaLAA said:

Homework Statement


Let Y_1,Y_2 be independent random variable with uniform distribution on the interval [1,2]. Define X=max{Y_1,Y_2}. Find p.d.f., expected value and variance.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Since $X=\max\{Y_1,Y_2\}$, this tells $Y_1$ and $Y_2$ must at most $x$. Thus, $\p(\max\{Y_1,Y_2\}\leq x)=\p(\{Y_1\leq x,Y_2\leq x\})=(2-x)^2$ with $1\leq x\leq 2$. So, the $c.d.f.$ of $X$ is
$$\p(x)=
\begin{cases}
0&\text{if $x<1$}\\
(2-x)^2 & \text{if $1\leq x\leq 2$}\\
1& \text{if $x>2$}
\end{cases}$$ where $a,b\in[1,2]$.
Then, the $p.d.f.$ is
$$p(x)=
\begin{cases}
2(2-x)&\;\;\text{if $1\leq a,b\leq 2$}\\
0&\;\;\text{otherwise}
\end{cases}$$
The expected value of $X$ is
$$E(X)=\int_{1}^{2}(4x-2x^2)\,dx=\frac{4}{3}$$
We also have
$$E(X^2)=\int_{1}^{2}(4x^2-2x^3)\,dx=\frac{11}{6}$$
Therefore, the variance is
$$V(X)=E(X^2)-(E(X))^2=\frac{11}{6}-\left(\frac{4}{3}\right)^2=\frac{1}{18}$$
Your ##p(x)## is incorrect, because ##\{ \max(Y_1,Y_2) \leq x \} = \{ Y_1 \leq x \; \& \; Y_2 \leq x \}##, so ##P(X \leq x ) = P(Y_1 \leq x) \cdot P(Y_2 \leq x)## for independent ##Y_1,Y_2##.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Your ##p(x)## is incorrect, because ##\{ \max(Y_1,Y_2) \leq x \} = \{ Y_1 \leq x \; \& \; Y_2 \leq x \}##, so ##P(X \leq x ) = P(Y_1 \leq x) \cdot P(Y_2 \leq x)## for independent ##Y_1,Y_2##.
The cdf is (x-1)^2?
 
HaLAA said:
The cdf is (x-1)^2?

Not for all x, no, but maybe for some x. Anyway, you tell me!
 
Ray Vickson said:
Not for all x, no, but maybe for some x. Anyway, you tell me!
For x from 1 to 2, (x-1)^2
For x below 1, it is 0
For x greater than 2, it is 1
 
HaLAA said:
For x from 1 to 2, (x-1)^2
For x below 1, it is 0
For x greater than 2, it is 1

Correct. You could write it in LaTeX using the "cases" command, exactly as you did in post #1, like this:
$$F_X(x) = \begin{cases} 0 &\text{if $x < 1$}\\
(x-1)^2 & \text{if $1 \leq x < 2$}\\
1 & \text{if $x \geq 2$}
\end{cases}
$$
 
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