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The discussion focuses on calculating the expected value E(X) when flipping three fair coins, where X is defined as the cube of the number of heads. The initial approach incorrectly assumed probabilities for heads, but it was clarified that X should take values of 1, 8, and 27 for 1, 2, and 3 heads, respectively. The correct probabilities for getting k heads in three flips are derived using binomial coefficients, resulting in P(k=0) = 1/8, P(k=1) = 3/8, P(k=2) = 3/8, and P(k=3) = 1/8. The final expected value can be computed by summing the products of these probabilities and their corresponding X values.
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Suppose you roll three fair coins, and let X be the cube of the number of heads
showing. Compute E(X)

I started this question with X=xi where i = 1,2,3 since there are 3 fair coins and there are either 1 2 or 3 heads that will show up. then it says that X will be the cube of the number of heads so I put
P(getting heads) = (1/2)^(i^3)
So E(X) = $$xiP(X=xi)$$ = $$i(1/2)^(i^3)$$ summation from i=1 to 3..
am i on the right track??
 
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Re: expected values: three fair coins

oyth94 said:
Suppose you roll three fair coins, and let X be the cube of the number of heads
showing. Compute E(X)

I started this question with X=xi where i = 1,2,3 since there are 3 fair coins and there are either 1 2 or 3 heads that will show up. then it says that X will be the cube of the number of heads so I put
P(getting heads) = (1/2)^(i^3)
So E(X) = $$xiP(X=xi)$$ = $$i(1/2)^(i^3)$$ summation from i=1 to 3..
am i on the right track??

Not quite (and you mean flip 3 fair coins...not roll... XD); since $X$ represents the cube of the number of heads, you instead want $x_1=1^3=1$, $x_2=2^3=8$ and $x_3=3^3=27$. Then $\mathbb{P}(X=x_i)$ would represent the probability of getting 1, 2, or 3 heads; in this case, we would have $\mathbb{P}(X=x_i)=\dfrac{1}{2^i}$, $i=1,2,3$. Thus,
\[E[X]=\sum_{i=1}^3 x_i\mathbb{P}(X=x_i)=\ldots\]

I hope this makes sense!
 
Re: expected values: three fair coins

Chris L T521 said:
Not quite (and you mean flip 3 fair coins...not roll... XD); since $X$ represents the cube of the number of heads, you instead want $x_1=1^3=1$, $x_2=2^3=8$ and $x_3=3^3=27$. Then $\mathbb{P}(X=x_i)$ would represent the probability of getting 1, 2, or 3 heads; in this case, we would have $\mathbb{P}(X=x_i)=\dfrac{1}{2^i}$, $i=1,2,3$. Thus,
\[E[X]=\sum_{i=1}^3 x_i\mathbb{P}(X=x_i)=\ldots\]

I hope this makes sense!

Oh I see what you did! Thank you so much!
 
Re: expected values: three fair coins

Chris L T521 said:
$\mathbb{P}(X=x_i)=\dfrac{1}{2^i}$, $i=1,2,3$. Thus,
\[E[X]=\sum_{i=1}^3 x_i\mathbb{P}(X=x_i)=\ldots\]
i have a doubt(probably elementary),
you have assumed probability of getting one head is $$\frac{1}{2}$$.But i think it is the probability to get at least one head ,doesn't that include cases of $$2$$ or $$3$$ heads and why isn't the probability $$\frac{1}{2^3}$$ for all cases
(i mean why aren't we taking exact probability here)
 
Re: expected values: three fair coins

mathworker said:
i have a doubt(probably elementary),
you have assumed probability of getting one head is $$\frac{1}{2}$$.But i think it is the probability to get at least one head ,doesn't that include cases of $$2$$ or $$3$$ heads and why isn't the probability $$\frac{1}{2^3}$$ for all cases
(i mean why aren't we taking exact probability here)

The probability to have k heads in 3 trials is $\displaystyle \frac{\binom{3}{k}}{8}$, so that...

$P\{k=0\} = \frac{1}{8}$

$P\{k=1\} = \frac{3}{8}$

$P\{k=2\} = \frac{3}{8}$

$P\{k=3\} = \frac{1}{8}$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
got it,changing the positions we could get 3 possibilities of eight , thank you
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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