Experience for a high school student?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding work experience opportunities in physics and mathematics for a high school student in New York City. Participants share advice and personal experiences related to securing such positions, including volunteering and networking strategies.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Jorge, a 16-year-old physics and mathematics enthusiast, seeks recommendations for work experience opportunities in NYC related to his interests.
  • Some participants suggest that typical job options for a 16-year-old are limited, often to fast-food or retail positions, unless one has connections.
  • Volunteering at museums or science centers is proposed as a potential avenue for gaining experience.
  • One participant mentions that professors often have access to undergraduates for research assistance, implying that high school students may face challenges in securing such roles.
  • Another participant shares their connection with a professor who may help in finding opportunities, highlighting the importance of networking.
  • Concerns are raised about the qualifications needed for research positions, with some suggesting that Jorge may need more background knowledge before pursuing such roles.
  • There is a discussion about the balance between self-study and seeking formal research positions, with encouragement to continue independent learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions on the feasibility of securing research positions as a high school student, with some emphasizing the importance of connections and social skills, while others suggest focusing on volunteering and self-study first. No consensus is reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential lack of necessary background knowledge for research positions and the dependence on personal connections for securing opportunities. The discussion reflects varying levels of optimism and realism regarding job prospects for high school students in STEM fields.

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Hello everyone, I'm a 16 year old physics and mathematics enthusiast who's just moved to NYC, and will be getting my IB in Physics when I graduate from this new school. I do independent research heavily when I'm not doing schoolwork, and I've been wondering if there are any locations within or near the city that offer work experience for a high school student extremely devoted to the study of physics and math. Any recommendations/pieces of advice are extremely appreciated, thank you for your time.

-Jorge
 
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Yeah when you're 16, the best job you can generally get is mcdonalds or working at kmart. Sorry but that's the truth. UNLESS YOU HAVE HOOKUPS, then there's little ways you can get a job that involves physics research. That or you'd have to be extremely socialized and good with words to pass an interview and really impress the interviewer. Basically you got to sell yourself really good. From my experience, physics majors and math majors aren't exactly the most social people in the world.. You could be different though =)
 
Profs have a pool of undergrads at their disposal.
 
theJorge551 said:
Hello everyone, I'm a 16 year old physics and mathematics enthusiast who's just moved to NYC, and will be getting my IB in Physics when I graduate from this new school. I do independent research heavily when I'm not doing schoolwork, and I've been wondering if there are any locations within or near the city that offer work experience for a high school student extremely devoted to the study of physics and math. Any recommendations/pieces of advice are extremely appreciated, thank you for your time.

Try volunteering at a museum

http://www.amnh.org/join/getinvolved/volunteering/

for example.
 
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twofish-quant said:
Try volunteering at a museum

http://www.amnh.org/join/getinvolved/volunteering/

for example.

Or at a science center.
 
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kramer733 said:
Yeah when you're 16, the best job you can generally get is mcdonalds or working at kmart. Sorry but that's the truth. UNLESS YOU HAVE HOOKUPS, then there's little ways you can get a job that involves physics research. That or you'd have to be extremely socialized and good with words to pass an interview and really impress the interviewer. Basically you got to sell yourself really good. From my experience, physics majors and math majors aren't exactly the most social people in the world.. You could be different though =)

My sister's good friend and professor of Communication Arts at NYIT knows several powerful contacts at amazing universities like MIT, and a few others around the country that I'd love to consider attending, and I am slowly coming to strengthen my connection with him and hopefully (quite likely) he knows someone who could find me some experience at a university in the city.

And, I know that I can succeed with flying colors at any interview...but I'd be hard-pressed to find an organization or institution that will give me one without an undergraduate degree. :P
 
thrill3rnit3 said:
Profs have a pool of undergrads at their disposal.

This is very true. I'm just getting tired of sitting back and skating across classes in high school while my independent work goes unnoticed, so perhaps I could try to take the initiative now.
 
theJorge551 said:
My sister's good friend and professor of Communication Arts at NYIT knows several powerful contacts at amazing universities like MIT, and a few others around the country that I'd love to consider attending, and I am slowly coming to strengthen my connection with him and hopefully (quite likely) he knows someone who could find me some experience at a university in the city.

And, I know that I can succeed with flying colors at any interview...but I'd be hard-pressed to find an organization or institution that will give me one without an undergraduate degree. :P

Well you're really lucky. You're ahead of the rest of the world with those connections and work ethic, along with social skills. Congratulations. I must admit I'm jelous haha. Just don't f**k up =) and best of luck to you. I know my friend's coworker who's only 15 programs for a company and gets paid 17/hour. Though i don't know what the company its called. He got that job through major connection. His father is best friends with that company's owner and his father is some big business man himself.
 
twofish-quant said:
Try volunteering at a museum

http://www.amnh.org/join/getinvolved/volunteering/

for example.

Thank you very much for the link! Ironic, I'm attending a private school just a few blocks away from the museum. I highly appreciate it.
 
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So you're trying to find actual research work? You said you have done independent stuff...what kind of stuff? If you have self studied the necessary pre-req's to help with certain research projects, why not email professors directly asking to volunteer? Although, since you're 16, I would tend to agree with the posts above unless, like I said, you've managed to learn the background material on your own.

edit: I just searched through your previous posts to get an idea of what your background is and according to this thread, https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=420336, you've working your way through calculus and some basic linear algebra right now, correct? If this is the case, don't try to rush into getting a research position since you do not have the necessary background. IMHO, some of the advice above would be best to follow. But keep self-studying! It's great to be so motivated and it's something I wish I had done more of in high school.
 

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