Experiment with Bottle: Hot Air, Freezer & Pressure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around an experiment involving a plastic bottle, hot air, and temperature changes to explore the behavior of gases under varying conditions. Participants examine the effects of cooling on gas volume and pressure, as well as the physical response of the bottle.

Discussion Character

  • Experimental/applied, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an experiment where hot air is introduced into a bottle, which is then cooled in a freezer, leading to a concave shape of the bottle.
  • Another participant explains that as the temperature decreases, gas molecules lose heat energy, which causes them to slow down and come closer together, thus reducing the volume of air.
  • A further contribution notes that the cooling of the gas results in a drop in pressure inside the bottle, allowing external pressure to partially collapse the bottle. Opening the bottle allows air to enter until pressures equalize.
  • Another participant elaborates on the potential structural effects on the bottle, suggesting that the collapse may induce non-elastic strain, which could affect the bottle's ability to return to its original shape.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the principles of gas behavior under temperature changes and the resulting pressure dynamics. However, there are nuanced discussions regarding the structural implications of the bottle's collapse, indicating some uncertainty and differing interpretations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of material strain on the bottle's structure and the conditions under which it may or may not return to its original shape.

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Hello,
I have done following experiment. I take a hairdryer and insufflate hot air into plastic bottle. Then I close the bottle and put it into freezer. After couple of minutes the bottle is concave. When I open bottle then it returns to previous shape. I guess that volume of air is going down together with temperature. Question is: why does it happen? Does air fly out under pressure or fly in, because there appeared some more place?
 
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Because when the temperature decreased, the gas molecules lost heat energy, so they slowed down their movement and hence came closer to each other. This reduced the volume of the air.
 
To add to the answer above when the gas cools the pressure inside the bottle drops and the greater pressure outside partially collapses the bottle.Opening the bottle allows air to move in until the pressures inside equalises with the pressure outside.
 
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Dadface said:
To add to the answer above when the gas cools the pressure inside the bottle drops and the greater pressure outside partially collapses the bottle.Opening the bottle allows air to move in until the pressures inside equalises with the pressure outside.

Right, and this may or may not cause a complete re-normalization of the bottle structure.
The "may or may not" has to do with whether or not critical, non-elastic, material strain is induced during "collapse"
If so, and not uncommon, greater energy is required for a complete restitution.
 

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