Experimental Proofs of Special Relativity: Myons, Bertozzi & More

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The discussion centers around experimental proofs of Special Relativity (SRT), specifically referencing historical experiments such as those conducted by W. Bertozzi and involving muons. Participants explore the implications of SRT regarding the speed of light and relative velocities, as well as seek clarification on specific concepts related to these experiments.

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Main Points Raised

  • A participant inquires about significant past experiments that demonstrate the highest possible speed, mentioning Bertozzi's experiment with electrons and the behavior of muons.
  • There is a question regarding the behavior of light within a spaceship traveling at half the speed of light, specifically whether light can exceed the speed of light in this frame.
  • Another participant confirms that relative velocities do not simply add, referencing the formula for relativistic velocity addition, which ensures that the resultant speed does not exceed the speed of light.

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Participants express curiosity and seek clarification on concepts related to SRT, but there is no consensus on the interpretations of the implications of these experiments or the specifics of relativistic effects.

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Some assumptions regarding the nature of light and relative motion are not fully explored, and the discussion includes references to external resources for further reading.

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Students and enthusiasts of physics, particularly those interested in the experimental foundations of Special Relativity and the implications of relativistic motion.

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Hi

Im new in this Forum. I am from Switzerland, in the first year of Physics at University. Please forgive some mistakes I might will make in english

I read a little bit in advance for the next years about the SRT and its relation to other fields of study.

Basically I wanted to know about past experiments which proofed about the highest speed possible. I read about the experiment by W. Bertozzi in the 60th, who accelerated electrons by an electric field generated by a Van de Graaf Generator.

Then there is this experiment with Myons un- and accelerated: If they decay to gamma rays, both gamma rays, from the accelerated and not accelerated myons have the same speed.

Which other significant experiments exists beside those? Could anyone give me some information about that?

And just for my understanding: If I have, for example a space ship, traveling half the velocity of light trough space. Then inside the spaceship I send a light ray in vacuum from the back to the front of the the ship, this light doesn't travel 1.5 times the speed of light, according to the special theorie of relativity?? Is this because, also according to SRT, the spaceship traveling 0.5 c, already constructs a big time deletation, when looking at the spaceship from outside?

So basically, the fundament of the SRT is, that the highest speed possible is detirmined by the speed of light? If this fundament wouldn't be true, SRT also couldn't be stand out?

Thanks for some answers

Greetings

Philipp
 
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See the references in http://www.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq/Relativity/SR/experiments.html (from the Usenet Physics FAQ)
 
ok, thanks very much for the link. maybe just what I was looking for. I will read it next day.

further, may I ask again about the thing I asked about the spaceship traveling half the speed of light etc? Is this right what I was writing in my opening thread?
 
yes, two relative velocities combine not simply by adding:

[tex]u = u' + v[/tex]

but rather, in such a way that the result can never exceed c:

[tex]u = \frac {u' + v}{1 + (u'v/c^2)}[/tex]

Look up "relativistic velocity addition" or "relativistic composition of velocities" in your textbooks or on a search engine.
 

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