Explain the difference between these two theorems.

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of two theorems related to the uniform convergence of power series, specifically Abel's Theorem. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the implications of each theorem concerning the radius of convergence.

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  • Participants explore the differences between the two theorems, noting that Theorem III addresses uniform convergence within a radius, while Theorem XI includes convergence at the boundary. There is a discussion about the implications of these theorems on the intervals of convergence and the conditions under which uniform convergence can be claimed.

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Participants have provided insights into the distinctions between the theorems, with some noting that Theorem XI offers a stronger conclusion regarding uniform convergence at the boundary. There is recognition of the varying assumptions in each theorem, contributing to a deeper understanding of their applications.

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Some participants highlight that Theorem III does not guarantee uniform convergence on the entire interval of convergence, which raises questions about the assumptions and conditions necessary for applying each theorem effectively.

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Homework Statement



So I get to Abel's Theorem and I'm like, "What the fork? I think I've seen this before."

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THEOREM III. Suppose that the series ∑anxn has a positive or infinite radius of convergence R. Let 0 < r < R. Then the series converges uniformly on the closed interval -r ≤ x ≤ r.

THEOREM XI. If ∑anxn converges at x = R, then it converges uniformly on the closed interval 0 ≤ x ≤ R. A like conclusion
golds for -R ≤ x ≤ 0 if the series converges at x = -R.


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Theorem 11 seems to be restating theorem 3 in a different way.

Theorem 2 mentions the "radius of convergence R." Theorem 11 mentions an R at which the series converges, which means R is any number inside the radius of convergence. Thus we're talking about the interval of convergence in both theorems. Then, basically, they both state that a series converges uniformly in its interval of convergence. [PLAIN]http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4879227/lolwut.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=OWL
 
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The first one says, that if it is has radius of convergence R, then it converges uniformly for all points within that radius (but it says nothing about the case where |x| = R).

According to the second one, if it converges at x = R, then the radius of convergence is at least R (and then it reminds you that this implies that it also converges for all |x| < R).

Have to admit I had to look twice to notice the difference though, so I understand your confusion.
 
Also note that the first theorem does NOT say that the series converges uniformly on it's interval of convergence. It says that the series converges uniformly on something smaller than the interval of convergence.

For example, if the interval of convergence is [-2,2]. Then the first theorem can be applied to show that convergence is uniform on [-1,1] or [-1.5, 1.5], but NOT on [-2,2]!

If you want uniform convergence on the full interval of convergence, then you need to apply the second theorem.
 
Thanks, guys! So Theorem 11 is more powerful since it says something about the point x = R and uniform convergence?
 
Yes, theorem 11 has a more powerful conclusion!
 
Do note that the first theorem has a weaker assumption, too.
It is of the form "if A, then B for x < R"
The second on is of the form "if A and B for x = R, then C for x < R as well as for x = R".
 

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