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Can someone explain to me what Aether is? And what's the difference between the Higgs field and the aether?
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The discussion centers around the concept of Aether and its distinction from the Higgs field, exploring historical perspectives, theoretical implications, and the nature of these fields within the context of physics. Participants engage in both conceptual clarification and technical reasoning regarding the properties and roles of these fields in relation to relativity and particle physics.
Participants express differing views on the relevance and existence of Aether, with some asserting its historical context and others proposing theoretical models involving Aether. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these differing perspectives.
Participants reference various theoretical frameworks and mathematical formulations, indicating that assumptions about the nature of Aether and fields may depend on specific definitions and contexts. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and speculative ideas about higher dimensions.
This discussion may be of interest to those studying theoretical physics, particularly in the areas of field theory, relativity, and particle physics, as well as individuals curious about historical concepts in physics.
When people started to learn that light acted like a wave, they reasoned that there was some medium which the light was a wave perturbation on. This was a fairly reasonable assumption at the time, as all known waves at the time occurred in some medium. They called this medium for electrodynamics the aether. As with sound in air or ocean waves on the water, the relevant speed is the speed with respect to the medium. So they thought that the speed of light (or maxwell's equations in general) were only true in one coordinate system ... the "aether frame" in which the aether is at reast. Experiment later showed that such an aether did not exist (or at the very least had no effect on experiment and therefore was not a subject for science). So the aether is now a defunct topic accept for certain gravity theories that try to add in a dynamic background field that breaks lorentz invariance... but these are not mainstream.Haibara Ai said:Can someone explain to me what Aether is?
As described above, the aether is not related to the Higgs at all.Haibara Ai said:And what's the difference between the Higgs field and the aether?
Haibara Ai said:Can someone explain to me what Aether is? And what's the difference between the Higgs field and the aether?
thanks
robousy said:...I would add that an aether in the 5th dimension would still preserve 4D lorentz invariance, and have some quite interesting effects.
For example, consider a scalar field coupled to an aether field [itex]u^a[/itex]in the fifth dimension:
[tex]\mathcal{L}_{\phi}= \frac{1}{2} (\partial\phi)^2 -\frac{1}{2} m^2\phi^2-\frac{1}{2\mu^2_\phi}u^a u^b\partial_a\phi\partial_b\phi[/tex]