Explaining the Hydrostatic Pressure Paradox: What's Wrong with the Flask?

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The discussion centers on the hydrostatic pressure paradox involving an Erlenmeyer flask and a beaker filled with water to the same height. Despite having the same base area and mass, the forces acting on the containers differ due to their shapes. The beaker's side forces cancel out, while the flask's vertical components reduce the force on the balance, leading to a discrepancy in weight. The conversation also touches on the application of Archimedes' law and the need for integration to compute the force acting on the flask's sides.

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Hi! I came over this paradox: an Erlenmeyer flask and a beaker are filled with water to the same height - it is assumed that they have the same base area and the same mass. Then the hydrostatic pressure of water is the same at the bottom of each container (since the depths are the same) and when put on a balance, they should exert the same force on it and therefore weigh the same. The question is - what's wrong?

I think it might be that one should take into account all the forces acting on the containers. In the case of the beaker, there's the force that's acts on the base plus forces that act on the sides of the beaker. The forces acting on the sides should cancel themselves - when we look at every vertical cut of the beaker that goes through its axis, the forces on opposite sides are equal in magnitude (due to the Pascal's Law - "the fluid pressure at all points in a connected body of an incompressible fluid at rest, which are at the same absolute height, are the same") and opposite in directions.

In the case of the flask, these forces are perpendicular to its sides. Horizontal components cancel out. But for the paradox stated above, their vertical components are important, since they are responsible for reducing the force acting on the balance - they reduce the effect of the hydrostatic force acting on the base of the flask.

I also attached a drawing. Is this a good answer to the initial question "What's wrong (in the case of the flask)?"
 

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Yes, your reasoning is correct. This is kind of an inverse application of Archimedes' law...
 
Thanks very much for making me sure... I have one more question - how the force acting on the side could be computed? I think it would require integration, wouldn't it? Like taking an infinitesimaly narrow stripe around the flask whose all points are in the same depth, calculating the hydrostatic pressure and then using the formula p = F/A, where A is the area of the stripe?
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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