Exploring Electrical Potential Energy Across Series Circuits

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The discussion explores the concept of electrical potential energy in series circuits, particularly focusing on how voltage is distributed across identical components. Participants examine the implications of resistance, the behavior of electrons, and the application of Ohm's Law in understanding voltage drops.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether each Coulomb of charge uses all its electrical potential energy supplied by the battery as work done across a component, suggesting that this is ideal but may not hold true in real circuits due to losses.
  • Another participant explains that electrons in a circuit do not operate individually; rather, they collectively contribute to the circuit's behavior, leading to a net motion that results in energy distribution across components.
  • A participant uses an analogy of sliding down a slide to illustrate the concept of energy conversion, suggesting that potential energy is transformed into other forms as it moves through the circuit.
  • One participant provides a mathematical example using Ohm's Law to calculate current and voltage drops across resistors in a series circuit, demonstrating that identical resistors will have equal voltage drops.
  • The same participant notes that different resistor values would lead to different voltage drops, but the sum of the voltage drops will always equal the total voltage supplied by the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on how electrical potential energy is utilized in series circuits, with some uncertainty regarding the behavior of electrons and the implications of resistance. There is no consensus on the ideal versus real circuit behavior.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding ideal conditions versus real-world applications are not fully explored, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of energy distribution and electron behavior in circuits.

Jacob Gawel
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Assuming the resistance of a wire in a series circuit, consisting only of 1 component (e.g. filament lamp) and a battery, is negligible; does each Coulomb of charge commit all of its electrical potential energy, supplied by the battery's potential difference, as work done across the component (thus electrical potential energy gained at battery = electrical potential energy lost across component)?

If so, how is voltage divided evenly across 2 identical components in series?
i.e. how do the circuit electrons give up only half their electrical potential energy at component 1, to 'save' some electrical potential energy for component 2?
 
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Jacob Gawel said:
does each Coulomb of charge commit all of its electrical potential energy, supplied by the battery's potential difference, as work done across the component (thus electrical potential energy gained at battery = electrical potential energy lost across component)?

Ideally, yes. In real circuits some is lost in the wire and in the battery.

Jacob Gawel said:
If so, how is voltage divided evenly across 2 identical components in series?
i.e. how do the circuit electrons give up only half their electrical potential energy at component 1, to 'save' some electrical potential energy for component 2?

Remember that electrons do not exist by themselves in a circuit, but as a collection of a great many electrons. The battery does work on the entire circuit, including all of the electrons, all at once. So if you look at electron A, you cannot say that it has 10 volts of electric potential energy, of which it gives half to resistor 1 and half to resistor 2. Instead you have trillions of electrons whose collective behavior delivers the energy to each component in the circuit.

In fact, the motion of each electron is completely random, and the battery only causes a small net motion in a certain direction. This slight imbalance between directions is what gives rise to the movement of charge through the circuit. If you could look at a single slice of the circuit, you would see electrons crossing it from both directions, with one direction having slightly more electrons over time.
 
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Jacob Gawel said:
If so, how is voltage divided evenly across 2 identical components in series?
i.e. how do the circuit electrons give up only half their electrical potential energy at component 1, to 'save' some electrical potential energy for component 2?


When starting out it's difficult to work these conundrums in your head.
Use your everyday experience on them.
As a kid, did you ever slide down a not very steep, slow sliding board made for little guys and feel it warm the seat of your pants ? Halfway down you've converted half your potential energy into heating your backside.

Any help ?

old jim
 
Jacob Gawel said:
If so, how is voltage divided evenly across 2 identical components in series?

lets look at a couple of examples

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The left hand part just shows a single resistor across the 10V power supply
Using Ohms Law, we can work out the total current flowing in the circuit

I = V / R ( Current = Voltage / Resistance)
I = 10V / 30 Ohms
I = 0.33 Amps

in the second circuit if we want to find the voltage drop across each resistor
We first do that same step again work out the total current flowing in the circuit

I = V / R
I = 10V / 60 Ohms ( 30 Ohms + 30 Ohms)
I = 0.166

Now that we know the total current flowing, we can now use Ohms Law rearranged to find the voltage drop across each resistor
NOTE ... because the resistors are the same value, the voltage drop will be the same across each of them ... therefor we only need to work out the voltage drop across one of the resistors

V = I x R
V = 0.166 x 30
V = 4.98V

Close enough to 5V drop across each resistor

Now you could do an example where the two resistors are different values and work out the voltage drop across
each resistor.
NOTE .. the addition of the 2 voltage drops will always equal the total voltage across the circuit.Dave
 
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