Expression y(x,t) for sinusoidal wave traveling along a rope

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion centers around deriving the expression for a sinusoidal wave traveling along a rope, specifically in the negative x direction, with given parameters such as amplitude, wavelength, and frequency. Participants are tasked with expressing the wave function in SI units and ensuring it meets certain conditions at specified points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct expression for the wave function and question the validity of their attempts. There are inquiries about the conversion of units from centimeters to meters and the implications of wave direction based on the signs of angular frequency and wave number.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the relationship between the signs in the wave equation and the direction of wave propagation. There is ongoing exploration of how to correctly express the wave function and clarify the conditions under which it is evaluated.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the requirements of expressing their answers in SI units and are considering the implications of phase in wave motion. There is a focus on understanding the behavior of the wave as it travels in a specified direction.

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Homework Statement


(a) Write the expression for y as a function of x and t in SI units for a sinusoidal wave traveling along a rope in the negative x direction with the following characteristics: A = 5.00 cm, λ =85.0 cm, f = 5.00 Hz, and y(0, t) = 0 at t = 0. (Use the following as necessary: x and t.)

Write the expression for y as a function of x and t for the wave in part (a) assuming y(x, 0) = 0 at the point x = 17.0 cm. (Use the following as necessary: x and t.)

Homework Equations


Conversion equations from f and lambda to k and omega
y(x,t) = Asin(kx(+/-)wt)

The Attempt at a Solution


$$5\sin \left(10\pi t+\frac{2}{85}\pi x-.4\pi \right)$$
Why is this wrong? I don't understand. I put it into desmos, and it shows AT LEAST that at at y(17,0) = 0. Also based off the slider, it seems to be going in the negative x-direction, which is correct.
 
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SI units?
 
robphy said:
SI units?
So I'm supposed to put this in meters instead of centimeters?

I thought I tried that, but apparently I had other things wrong when I did. Thanks, I totally thought I had everything right.
 
By the way, if you don't mind me asking, how are you supposed to tell whether or not a wave is going along the positive or negative x-direction? I know it has to do with the signs, but it would seem intuitive that the angular frequency being negative would mean it's negative. However, it appears that both k and omega being positive means that it's going in the negative x-direction. Why?
 
horsedeg said:
By the way, if you don't mind me asking, how are you supposed to tell whether or not a wave is going along the positive or negative x-direction? I know it has to do with the signs, but it would seem intuitive that the angular frequency being negative would mean it's negative. However, it appears that both k and omega being positive means that it's going in the negative x-direction. Why?

Think "phase".
At an instant, consider a point on the string. Note its phase (the argument of the sin function).
As t increases, what must x do to keep this phase value (i.e. this disturbance) constant?
That's where the disturbance propagates to.

Old post:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ean-in-the-wave-equation.836348/#post-5254546

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/bjt6dleg5h
 
robphy said:
Think "phase".
At an instant, consider a point on the string. Note its phase (the argument of the sin function).
As t increases, what must x do to keep this phase value (i.e. this disturbance) constant?
That's where the disturbance propagates to.

Old post:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ean-in-the-wave-equation.836348/#post-5254546

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/bjt6dleg5h
Simplified, does this mean that a minus means positive direction and a plus means negative direction?
 
horsedeg said:
Simplified, does this mean that a minus means positive direction and a plus means negative direction?
Relative-minus sign means the disturbance travels in the positive x-direction.
 

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