Factorising a cubic polynomial

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The discussion revolves around factorizing a cubic polynomial given by f(x) = x³ + x² - 10x + 8. Participants are exploring the factor theorem and the process of confirming (x - 1) as a factor, as well as the subsequent steps for full factorization.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants confirm that f(1) = 0, indicating (x - 1) is a factor. Others discuss the need for polynomial division to find the remaining factors. There are questions about the validity of certain factorization steps and the implications of the factor theorem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various methods for factorization, including polynomial long division and working backwards from the factor. There is recognition of the need for clarification on specific steps, and some participants express uncertainty about their previous reasoning.

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There is mention of homework constraints and the expectation to fully factor the polynomial, which some participants find challenging. The discussion includes references to external resources for further understanding of polynomial division techniques.

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1. A cubic polynomial is given by (f)x = x3 + x2 - 10x + 8

1) i) Show that (x -1) is a factor of f(x)

ii) Factorise f(x) fully

iii) Sketch the graph



2. Factor theorem?



3. Attempt at solution

i) I know that f(1) = 0, so (x - 1) is a factor of (f)x = x3 + x2 - 10x + 8

ii) I think i am correct in saying that since you know (x - 1) is a factor you can write it like this; ( x-1 )( x2 - 10x + 8 ), i just don't know where to go from there. I don't think you can factorise x2 - 10x + 8 any further?

I presume that by factorising fully, they mean in the form (x-a)(x-b)(x-c), i just can't seem to get there.
 
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i) is correct

ii) is not because you cannot just jump to that answer. To get the factored form, you must divide f(x) by x-1 either by long division or synthetic division and then get the other factor.
 
PlasmaSphere said:
1. A cubic polynomial is given by (f)x = x3 + x2 - 10x + 8

1) i) Show that (x -1) is a factor of f(x)

ii) Factorise f(x) fully

iii) Sketch the graph



2. Factor theorem?



3. Attempt at solution

i) I know that f(1) = 0, so (x - 1) is a factor of (f)x = x3 + x2 - 10x + 8

ii) I think i am correct in saying that since you know (x - 1) is a factor you can write it like this; ( x-1 )( x2 - 10x + 8 ), i just don't know where to go from there. I don't think you can factorise x2 - 10x + 8 any further?
How did you get that? Just by dropping the x3? Now you know that's not right! As Plasmasphere said, you could divide x^ x^2- 10x+ 8 by x-1. Or you can "work backwards. You want to find ax^2+ bx+ c so that (x-1)(ax^2+ bx+ c)= x^3+ x^2- 10x+ 8. Obviously, since x(x^2)= x^3 and -1(-8)= 8, a= 1, c= -8 (NOT +8!). Okay, multiply out (x-1)(x^2+ bx- 8)= x^3+ x^2- 20x+ 8 to see what b must be.

I presume that by factorising fully, they mean in the form (x-a)(x-b)(x-c), i just can't seem to get there.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynomial_long_division

Is the wiki page for the technique used in the link given by kbaumen.

You should divide the original polynomial by the given factor; that would leave you with a quadratic polynomial, which you should be able to factor without any difficulty.
 
Thanks for all the help, i used the working backwards method, and i got the right answer according to the answer booklet, the sketch for part iii) was easy too.

I'm not sure why i thought that i could write it as; ( x-1 )( x2 - 10x + 8 ), if you expand that it clearly will never give the correct answer. I was jumping two steps ahead.

Cheers, those pages on polynomial long division should be helpful in the future too.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Okay, multiply out (x-1)(x^2+ bx- 8)= x^3+ x^2- 20x+ 8 to see what b must be.

I don't understand that step (?) just curious how you got there
 
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If you are wondering about the "20x", that was a typo. The right hand side should be just the original polynomial, x^3+ x^2-10x+ 8.
 
silver-rose said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynomial_long_division

Is the wiki page for the technique used in the link given by kbaumen.

You should divide the original polynomial by the given factor; that would leave you with a quadratic polynomial, which you should be able to factor without any difficulty.

Actually I meant the Horner's scheme to be used for factorizing the equation. Sorry, if I made that unclear.
 
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What if we take division of the polynomial ?
( x3 + x2 - 10x + 8 ) / ( x-1)
 
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Kenny09 said:
What if we take division of the polynomial ?
( x3 + x2 - 10x + 8 ) / ( x-1)

Yes, that's already been discussed in several responses.
 

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