Fast track medicine for physicists

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The discussion centers around the transition from a physics degree to a medical career, specifically the pathways available for physics students interested in medicine or medical research. Participants explore the relevance of physics coursework to medical studies and research, as well as the feasibility of fast-tracking medical education for physics graduates.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the applicability of their physics degree to a medical career and questions the relevance of specific physics courses to medical studies.
  • Another participant suggests that a background in physics can be beneficial for medical research, particularly in areas like respiratory systems and data analysis.
  • A participant clarifies that in the UK, graduates from various disciplines can pursue a fast-track medical degree, which allows them to qualify as doctors in a shorter timeframe.
  • There is a suggestion that personal interest should guide course selection rather than the perceived utility of specific modules for fast-track entry into medicine.
  • Concerns are raised about whether fully qualified medical professionals have the capacity to engage in independent research, questioning the nature of "medical research" being discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of physics coursework to medical careers, the feasibility of fast-tracking medical education, and the nature of medical research. There is no consensus on the best approach for physics students transitioning to medicine.

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Participants highlight various assumptions about the requirements for medical education and research, including the importance of medical experience versus specific academic modules. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the pathways available for physics graduates in the medical field.

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I'm about to start my third year of an MPhys degree at Oxford. I'm a very serious student and am predicted to get a good first, but I've recently become more interested in becoming a doctor (and possibly doing medical research) than just pursuing a purely scientific career in physics. I'm slightly worried that my physics degree (whilst being very interesting) might not really be of much use when I change direction (or at least probably won't be as much use as a biochemistry/biology/chemistry etc. degree) I'm trying to choose my courses in the last two years to try and benefit me as much in my medical career as much as possible. There are a couple of issues:

1) There are a couple of topics that look as though they might relate to a medical degree e.g
Minor options in 3rd year: Medical and environmental physics
Introduction to Biophysics
Major option in 4th year: Biological Physics
These could either give me an introduction to what I might be studying in the future, or it might just end up being a repetition. If I'm going to learn the same stuff in more detail later there might not be any point in taking these.

2) If I was to go into e.g medical research later on, what sort of undergraduate physics knowledge might be useful? I have no idea if e.g solid state or fluid mechanics is useful to a medical researcher.

3) Does anyone know of any good forums for people wanting advice for medical careers/research?
 
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3) Does anyone know of any good forums for people wanting advice for medical careers/research?

This forum, although geard primarily toward U.S. med students, may be of some use to you. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/"
 
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Do you want to be a medical doctor, ie. work in a hospital, local practice... or do you want to do medical research?

For the former, you must have to get a medical degree?!? - I doubt there's anyway to fast track someone through this.

For the latter, you don't need to have medical qualifications. A couple of examples: a dynamical systems background can allow you to research, eg., respiratory systems, drug delivery... a background in data manipulation can be used to analyse scans...

I have known people with applied math backgrounds, but no medical qualifications, who work with proper :wink: doctors in hospitals.
 
I think there's been a bit of a misunderstanding. In the UK graduates of pretty much any discipline can take a standard medical degree (i.e MBBS and BChir) in just 4 years, instead of six. This is known as "fast track" medicine, and is what I'm planning to do. This would definitely allow me to qualify as a proper doctor i.e I could eventually become a consultant etc. I was just thinking that if I choose to do medical research after my MBBS, which physics options are useful?
 
I doubt any particular modules would get you onto a fast-track course more easily than any others. Go with the personal interest thing for your modules, and good luck getting onto fast-track. My housemate, an experienced optometry graduate, got rejected from fast-track and has just finished her first year of medicine.

Getting some medical experience would count for more than any particular uni modules; do some voluntary work in a nursing home, or perhaps work with St John's Ambulance or something.

Oh, and most medicine degrees here are five years now, the sixth being the start of your JHO stint.
 
You're still a bit vague over this "medical research" thing.

Do fully qualified doctors/surgeons/consultants have the time, or indeed the knowledge, required to partake in independent research?
 

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