Father pushing child on swing problem

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The problem involves a father pushing his child on a swing, where the swing is initially pulled back by 1 radian. The father applies a constant force perpendicular to the swing's chain until the swing returns to a vertical position. The discussion centers around the dynamics of the swing and the forces acting on it, particularly in the context of small angle approximations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and the derivation of the motion equation for the swing. There is an exploration of the approximation that sin(α) is approximately equal to α for small angles, with some questioning the accuracy of this approximation for angles up to 1 radian. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin solving the problem, while others provide insights into the differential equation that models the swing's motion.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the formulation of the governing equations for the swing's motion, while others are seeking further clarification on solving the resulting differential equation. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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The original poster mentions a time constraint for completing the homework, which may influence the urgency and nature of the discussion. Additionally, there is a note about the difficulty of using special symbols in the forum, which may affect communication regarding the mathematical expressions involved.

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Homework Statement



A father is about to push his child on the swing. He pulls the swing back by 1 radian, and start pushing the child with a constant force perpendicular to the swing's chain and with a magnitude equal to mg, where m is the mass of the child and the swing seat. The father stops pushing when the swing's chain is again vertical. In the approximation that sinα ≅ α (where α is an angle up to 1 radian), calculate the time the father is pushing. Neglect the weight of swing's chain and the retardation by the air drag.

Homework Equations



Umm, some second order differential equation that I have no clue how to derive?

The Attempt at a Solution



I really have no idea where to start with this one and I only have like 4 hours to get this done :frown: . Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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First, please do not use "special symbols". I do not have a Font that allows me to see what you have between [itex]sin \alpha[/itex] and [itex]\alpha[/itex]. I am assuming that you are saying that [itex]\alpha[/itex] is small enough that [itex]sin\alpha[/itex] is approximately equal to [itex]\alpha[/itex] (which is NOT very accurate for [itex]\alpha[/itex] up to 1 radian- sin(1) is only about .84- so I may be wrong about that).

Okay, your basic equation is F= ma, force equals mass times acceleration. At any point, there is a force, -mg, straight down, but the swing chain offsets part of that- the force parallel to motion is [itex]-mg sin\alpha[/itex] so you have [itex]m d^2s/dt^2= -mg sin\alpha[/itex] or approximately [itex]m d^2s/dt^2= -mg sin\alpha[/itex] where s is measured along the arc of the swing. If [itex]sin(\alpha)[/itex] is approximately [itex]\alpha[/itex], then [itex]m d^2s/dt^2= -mg\alpha[/itex] approximately.
If the swing chain has length L, then [itex]s= L\alpha[/itex] so the equation is [itex]d^2\alpha/dt^2= (-g/L) \alpha[/itex] or [itex]md^2\alpha /dt^2+ (mg/L) \alpha= 0[/itex].

Now put in the father's push. He is pushing parallel to the arc of motion with magnitude mg so we have [itex]md^2\alpha/dt^2+ (mg/L) \alpha= mg[/itex]. As always with gravity problems, the "m"s cancel and we have [itex]d^2\alpha/dt^2+ (g/L) \alpha= g[/itex]. That's the equation you want to solve.
 
You're a lifesaver, thank you so much for your help!
 
Just when I thought I had this problem, turns out the 2.5 years of no differential equations has caught up to me. Can anyone help me on how to solve [itex]d^2\alpha/dt^2+ (g/L) \alpha= g[/itex]? I've been searching online and through books for the past 2 hours and can't get it :confused:. Thanks.
 

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