How Long Does It Take for a Child to Swing Back and Forth on a Tire Swing?

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The discussion centers on calculating the time it takes for a child to swing back and forth on a tire swing suspended between two tree branches at different heights. The higher branch is 9.45 m above the ground, and the lower branch is 5.58 m above the ground, with the swing's bottom positioned at 0.46 m. The relevant formula used is T=2∏√(I/mgd), but participants highlight the challenge of determining the center of mass and the effective pivot point as the swing transitions from the higher to the lower branch. The calculated lengths for the pendulum are 8.99 m for the long swing and 5.12 m for the short swing, leading to a conclusion that the swing's period involves two distinct phases.

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A horizontal tree branch is directly above another horizontal tree branch. The elevation of the higher branch is 9.45 m above the ground, and the elevation of the lower branch is 5.58 m above the ground. Some children decide to use the two branches to hold a tire swing. One end of the tire swing's rope is tied to the higher tree branch so that the bottom of the tire swing is 0.46 m above the ground. This swing is thus a restricted pendulum. Starting with the complete length of the rope at an initial angle of 14.6° with respect to the vertical, how long does it take a child of mass 28.5 kg to complete one swing back and forth?


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T=2∏√I/mgd

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I used the T=2∏√I/mgd equation, but I'm having trouble finding d because I don't know where the center of mass is. Also, What branch would I use?
 
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Did this problem come with a picture? It sounds to me that at the bottom of the swing the rope then comes in contact with the lower branch and this branch becomes the new pivot point. If that is the case then the period would be double the time it takes the child to reach the bottom of the swing + double the time it takes the child to reach their peak height when the pivot changes to the lower branch (the doubling comes from the symmetry of the pendulum).
 
I agree with JHamm. Unless there is some essential information missing I think this is a long pendulum for 1/2 of the cycle and a short pendulum for the other 1/2.
I make the length of the long pendulum 8.99m and the length of the short pendulum 5.12m.
The time period for a pendulum is a straight forward expression.
T = 2∏√l/g
 

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