Fermi's Golden Rule: non-sinusoidal [itex]t\to\infty[/itex]

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The discussion revolves around the application of Fermi's Golden Rule to perturbations that are not constant or sinusoidal, specifically considering the form V_0\left( \mathbf{x}\right)f\left(t\right) where f(t) may take on various forms, such as f(t) = e^{-a t}. Participants explore the implications of this on transition probabilities and the relevance of time-dependent perturbation theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Fermi's Golden Rule is typically applied to constant or sinusoidal potentials and question how it can be adapted for non-sinusoidal functions like f(t) = e^{-a t}.
  • One participant suggests considering the method of variation of constants, indicating that the probability is related to the absolute square of ##c_n^1##.
  • Another participant emphasizes that Fermi's Golden Rule applies to transitions from discrete initial states to a continuum of final states, highlighting the importance of a well-defined energy E.
  • Some participants advocate for the application of the general formalism of time-dependent perturbation theory as a way to address the question posed.
  • There is a reiteration that the original question concerns the application of Fermi's Golden Rule, suggesting that the focus should remain on this aspect rather than on general perturbation theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Fermi's Golden Rule to non-sinusoidal perturbations, with some advocating for the use of time-dependent perturbation theory while others emphasize the specific conditions under which Fermi's Golden Rule is valid. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the form of f(t) and its implications for transition probabilities. The discussion does not resolve how these assumptions affect the application of Fermi's Golden Rule.

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From what I have seen, Fermi's Golden rule is applied to constant or sinusoidal time varying potentials. But what if the perturbation is of the form V_0\left( \mathbf{x}\right)f\left(t\right), where f(t) is not a constant or sinusoidal? I am not really familiar with the derivation of Fermi's golden rule, and the explanations I was given both seemed very hand-wavy. I know we can Fourier decompose f(t) in time, but it's not clear to me how that might be related back to transition probabilities. In particular, what if f(t) = e^{-a t} with a \in \mathbb{R}, a > 0 ?
 
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why don't you take a look at method of variation of constant.To first order of perturbation theory,probability is just given by absolute square of ##c_n^1##.
 
MisterX said:
From what I have seen, Fermi's Golden rule is applied to constant or sinusoidal time varying potentials. But what if the perturbation is of the form V_0\left( \mathbf{x}\right)f\left(t\right), where f(t) is not a constant or sinusoidal? I am not really familiar with the derivation of Fermi's golden rule, and the explanations I was given both seemed very hand-wavy. I know we can Fourier decompose f(t) in time, but it's not clear to me how that might be related back to transition probabilities. In particular, what if f(t) = e^{-a t} with a \in \mathbb{R}, a > 0 ?
Fermi's Golden Rule applies specifically to the transition from a discrete initial state to a continuum of final states. One of the factors in it is ρ(E), the density of states at the final energy E. The reason the perturbing potential is restricted to a single frequency is so that E will be well-defined.
 
Avodyne said:
You can still apply the general formalism of time-dependent perturbation theory.
Of course you can. But that was not the question. The question, I believe, was about Fermi's Golden Rule.
 
The question was "what if the perturbation is of the form V_0\left( \mathbf{x}\right)f\left(t\right), where f(t) is not a constant or sinusoidal?" And the answer is, "apply the general formalism of time-dependent perturbation theory."
 
Avodyne said:
The question was "what if the perturbation is of the form V_0\left( \mathbf{x}\right)f\left(t\right), where f(t) is not a constant or sinusoidal?" And the answer is, "apply the general formalism of time-dependent perturbation theory."
Take a look at the title of the thread.
 

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