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Ferrite magnet as toroid transformer

  1. Apr 30, 2012 #1
    Dear Experts

    I have a 1.5 cm ring magnet, you know, the black color type of common low magnetic power magnet.

    I wrapped 5 turns of copper wire around it on one side and then wrapped 10 rounds of another copper wire around it . I connected 5v battery to the 2 ends of the primary coil which is the 5 turn winding.

    I then measured with volt meter the secondary coil. I did not see the output voltage at the secondary coil increase.

    This is my noobie attempt. Please comment what could be wrong.

    Can a ferrite magnet be used to step up voltage?

    I want to step up the voltage by around 2 volts.

    Many Thanks.

    regards
    Ramone
     
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  3. Apr 30, 2012 #2

    vk6kro

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    Transformers only work on AC signals, so you would have to switch your battery current on and off through the primary winding to see anything on the secondary.

    However, a ferrite magnet would be a poor choice for a transformer core. Better options would be normal ferrite or soft iron laminations from a transformer.
     
  4. Apr 30, 2012 #3
    Are you talking about a toroidal "refrigerator" permanent magnet made of "hard" ferrite? You will need up to 300,000 amp-turns per meter. See attached table from http://www.what-are-magnets.com/10STRONTIUMCERAMIC.HTM
     

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  5. May 2, 2012 #4
    Dear Experts
    So , what is the recommended way to stepup a 5v dc battery pack to 8volts, occupying minimal space? Kindly please offer me an idea.

    I have sen videos demonstrating how a joule thief can light up a 3v led using just 1.5v. I wonder can this toroid be modified/ used as-is to function as transformer ?

    Yes, i am using a toroidal fridge magnet.
    its ferrite but permanently magnetised, i think. Is the effect different than a non-magnetised ferrite?

    Cheers
     
  6. May 2, 2012 #5
    Use a boost converter, which are transformerless:http://www.linear.com/products/step-up_(boost)_regulators
    Other mfgrs also make similar chips.
    Magnets are not suitable for transformers.
     
  7. May 5, 2012 #6
    Thanks so much Bob S. I will get a ferrite toroid and try again.

    Cheers :)
     
  8. May 5, 2012 #7
    If you need to make a toroid transformer circuit, be sure to use a soft ferrite. I personally would search for a boost regulator circuit from Linear.com, using a DIP package. How many milliamps do you need? I have built ferrite transformer circuits before, and the boost regulators are easier.
     
  9. May 7, 2012 #8
    Dear Bob

    Thanks for your reply.

    I am looking at output of as high as 500 milliamps, input voltage of any between 9v to 12 v and output of 5.5 to 6v.

    Is it possible to get free samples of 1 or 2 units for testing?

    Thanks.

    Regards
    Ramone
     
  10. May 7, 2012 #9

    vk6kro

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    You get free samples if someone thinks you might buy $500 worth of something. So, they ask who you work for and what your position is.

    So, unless you are likely to buy a lot of something, you shouldn't ask for free samples.

    Almost free, though, are these on Ebay:
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DC-DC-Co...70940113628?pt=AU_Gadgets&hash=item3f154a0adc

    Synchronous rectification, Max efficiency up to 98%.
    Input: 4.75-24V.
    Output: 0.93V-18V ( Buck Mode, the input must be 2V higher than output ).
    Output Current: continuous 2.5A ( Peak 4A).
    Price about $3.50 US.

    Which country are you in?
     
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