Figure out summation(x^2) in summation equation[Simple]

  • Thread starter Thread starter giddy
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Figure Summation
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving the calculation of the summation of squares, specifically \(\sum x^2\), in the context of a statistical analysis of a sample of flour bags. The original poster presents their struggle with the equations related to the mean and variance of the sample data.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to manipulate the given equations to isolate \(\sum x^2\). The original poster attempts to relate the summation equations to the variance formula but expresses confusion about the expansion of the summation.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of how to expand and manipulate the summation equations. Some participants provide guidance on expanding the terms, while others express uncertainty about the steps involved. The original poster eventually claims to have found the correct value for \(\sum x^2\), but the discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the methods used to arrive at that conclusion.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions specific values from their homework statement, including the sums related to the mean and variance, which are central to their inquiry. There is an indication of confusion regarding the manipulation of summation equations and the definitions involved.

giddy
Messages
28
Reaction score
0
Hi,
So this is just part of my problem but its got me stumped for days and I can't ignore it since its popping up too often in my problems.

Homework Statement


For A sample of 140 bags of flour. The masses of x grams of the contents are summarized by \sum (x - 500) = -266 and \sum (x-500)^2=1178 I need to find the mean and estimated variance. The mean is simple 140(x - 500) = -266; mean = 498.3 But how the heck do I figure out \sum x^2 with the above info? I need only \sum x^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Mostly I just doodled pages trying to get this one! =S I tried 140(x - 500)^2 = 1178 And solve it, comes out as x = -1.780 or - 998.22. Which isn't correct. I need \sum x^2 basically in the formula for estimated variance s^2 = \frac{1}{n-1}(\sum x^2 - \frac{(\sum x)^2}{n})
I tried reworking from the answer(variance=4.839) so sum of x2 should be 34773692.21 but I don't know how to get to this answer?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You have a sum(x_squared) in your second equation if you expand it. Just like you have a sum of x in your first.
 
Sorry I am not sure what you mean =S

If I do expand (x - 500)^2 it'll be x^2 - 2(500)(x) + 500^2 Right? So where would I get sum of x? How would I expand sum(x^2)
 
giddy said:
How would I expand sum(x^2)

You don't have to expand it, just solve for it.
 
You have
\sum_{i = 1}^{140}(x_i - 500)^2 = 1178
You can expand the sum on the left, and solve for \sum x^2.

\sum_{i = 1}^{140}(x_i - 500)^2 = 1178
\Rightarrow \sum_{i = 1}^{140}x_i^2 -2\sum_{i = 1}^{140} 500*x_i + \sum_{i = 1}^{140}500^2 = 1178
The second and third summations on the left can be simplified and substituted for.
 
aha.. ok so i didn't even know how to really solve summation equations, but I looked it up.

So Sum(x^2) = 34735178! And its correct... =)
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K