Find a general solution [Diff Eq]

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The discussion centers around finding a general solution for the differential equation y''' - 6y'' + 9y' = 0, which falls under the subject area of differential equations. Participants are exploring the nature of the problem and the methods required to approach it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the general form of the solution for a homogeneous differential equation and express uncertainty about deriving the specific solutions without prior knowledge of the characteristic equation. There is mention of the need to find the characteristic equation and the implications of repeated roots.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the nature of the problem and suggesting that the original poster may need to seek additional guidance from the instructor. There is recognition of the challenges posed by the problem given the original poster's stated lack of experience with higher-order differential equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster had not covered second-order and higher differential equations at the time of the test, raising questions about the expectations for solving the problem without those techniques.

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Homework Statement



Find a general solution for y''' - 6y'' + 9y' = 0

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The Attempt at a Solution



I know that the general solution for a homogeneous DEQ is
Y(x) = c1y1(x) + c2y2(x) ... cnyn(x)

however, I am not given y1, y2 , or y3 so I am to assume that the answer is

y(x) = c1y1(x) +c2y2(x) + c3y3(x).
 
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jinksys said:

Homework Statement



Find a general solution for y''' - 6y'' + 9y' = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I know that the general solution for a homogeneous DEQ is
Y(x) = c1y1(x) + c2y2(x) ... cnyn(x)

however, I am not given y1, y2 , or y3 so I am to assume that the answer is

y(x) = c1y1(x) +c2y2(x) + c3y3(x).

The whole point of solving a differential equation is to find the solutions. You are generally not going to be given them.

The first thing to do is to find the characteristic equation, and then solve it. Each solution r of your characteristic equation will lead to a function of the form erx.
 
Mark44 said:
The whole point of solving a differential equation is to find the solutions. You are generally not going to be given them.

The first thing to do is to find the characteristic equation, and then solve it. Each solution r of your characteristic equation will lead to a function of the form erx.

This is a question from my first test in differential equations:
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We hadn't covered second-order and higher DEQs at that time so this problem must be solvable without those techniques.

I'm just wondering how I would have solved this problem not knowing the characteristic equation, laplace transforms, etc.
 
You don't need Laplace transforms, but that's a tough problem if you don't have any experience with second-order or third-order DEs. Your general solution will have the form y = c1y1(x) + c2y2(x) + c3y3(x), but it's hard for me to believe that this is all your instructor wanted.

The natural approach to this problem involves solving the characteristic equation, as well as knowing what needs to happen when there are repeated roots of the characteristic equation.

If I were you I would ask the professor for some guidance on this problem, given that you don't (or didn't) have the skills yet to solve the differential equation.
 

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