Find Accel. of Cart from Mass m & Theta

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The problem involves determining the acceleration of a cart based on the angle theta and the mass of a hanging ball. The context includes analyzing forces acting on both the cart and the hanging mass.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the cart and the hanging mass, including tension and gravitational forces. There is confusion regarding the assumptions about the direction of acceleration and the forces involved. Some participants suggest solving for tension in terms of acceleration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces and their relationships. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations of motion, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the notation used, particularly with subscripts and symbols like theta. There is also a mention of the need for clarity on the net forces acting on the system.

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Homework Statement


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The problem is to create an equation to find the acceleration of the cart based upon theta. All that is given is the ball hanging is known as mass m.

Homework Equations


f=ma
f=\frac{mv^{2}}{r}

The Attempt at a Solution


I am assuming that the car is moving to the right, since the hanging mass is tilted backwards. I am really at a loss of even just identifying all the forces exactly. What confuses me the most is that we are assuming the cart is accelerating forward, but there is no force causing it to move forward.


So far, this is what I have:
m being the mass, c being the cart
F_{mx}=Tsin\theta

F_{my}=Tcos\theta - mg

F_{cx}=m_{c}a - Tsin\theta

F_{cy}=-Tcos\theta = 0

I know that these are probably wrong, but can someone please tell me why?
 
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I'm a little confused by all the subscripts! And can't make thetas here.
Vertical: Tcos(A) - mg = 0
Horizontal: Tsin(A) = ma
If you solve one for T and sub in the other, you'll get something that makes sense.

How do you make a theta?

PS it is accelerating to the right because theta > 0. If it wasn't accelerating, it would hang straight. So no need to think about what is making it accelerate.
 


Haha, well you make a theta using latex code. For the theta symbol, it would be [ t e x ] \ t h e t a [ \ t e x ] (minus the spaces)
 


Thank you greenskyy. I fear that is too awkward for me.
I have seen someone with a whole bunch of symbols (theta, pi, etc.) in his signature. I wonder if that is so he can copy a theta whenever he wants it? Do you know how I can have a signature here?
 


Nope, I looked around and couldn't find it anywhere in the user control panel =\
 


What is the net force on the ball-cart system? What quantity is conserved, then?
 

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