Find angular velocity using angular momentum

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To find the new angular velocity after the girl walks inward on the turntable, conservation of angular momentum is applied, resulting in a final angular velocity of 1.37 rad/s. The change in kinetic energy can be calculated using the initial and final kinetic energies based on the moment of inertia and angular velocities. For part c, the total angular momentum of the girl and turntable system is conserved, allowing the calculation of the turntable's angular velocity when the girl walks at 2 m/s relative to the ground. In part d, the same principle applies, but the girl’s speed is relative to the turntable, necessitating a different approach to find the turntable's angular velocity. The discussion emphasizes the importance of treating the girl and turntable as separate entities while conserving angular momentum.
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A 20kg girl stands on a large turntable 4m from its center. The turntable has a moment of inertia (about its roation axis) of 200kgm^2. Assume that the girl is a point mass.

a) Assume that the girl and turntable are rotating at 1 rad/s. If the girl walks inwards to a radius of 3m and stops, what is the new angular velocity?

b) Find the change in kinetic energy.

I got these two parts, but I am stuck with c and d



c) Assume that the turnable is initially stationary and the girl is at r=4m.

The girl starts walking in a circle around the turntable at a speed of 2m/s relative to the ground. Find the angular velocity of the turntable relative to the ground.

d) The girl starts walking in a circle around the turntable at a speed of 2m/sy relative to the turntable. Find the angular velocity of the turntable relative to the ground.


c) I got from part a that w_i = 1 rad/s and w_f 1.37 rad/s. I know that that I = 200 + mr^2

However, I have no idea what to do when she walks 2m/s. As she gets closer to the center, the turntable will spin faster. But I don't know what to do for c and d.
 
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For c and d the girl is no longer rotating at the same rate as the table. Don't try to find a moment of inertia for the system. Treat the girl as one object and the table as a second object and think about their individual angular momenta. The total angular momentum of the girl/table system is conserved. This is directly analogous to a linear momentum problem of a person walking on a plank that is on a frictionless surface. Starting from rest, if one thing goes one way, the other thing goes the other way.
 
For part c, you know the inital momentum is zero, that will be conserved. Set the angular momentum of the girl equal to the angular momentum of the turntable.

Edit: Wow, Dan you are all over the place.
 
Thank you.
 
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